From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: szigi@ik.bme.hu (SZIGETI Szabolcs) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 09:12:32 +0100 Subject: [TUHS] Russian Ancient UNIX stuff in the Archive References: <0303171918.AA01260@ivan.Harhan.ORG> <20030318002615.GA4329@minnie.tuhs.org> Message-ID: <003501c2ed26$20012000$26f34298@ik.bme.hu> > A friend of mine told me that Back in The Days the first UNIX users in the then > USSR were running patched (russified) 2.xBSD on Soviet PDP-11s and had KOI-8 > for Russian. Since the flagship editor on BSD is ex/vi, this makes me > think that those early Russian users used it and thus their patches Hi, I've got a story about this, which happened in the early '80s, int the then communist Hungary. A friend of mine worked at the university as a sysadmin, they were using Russian and Hungarian made PDP 11 clones, and mostly 6th ed. Unix. (Incidentally, I wish once someone wrote the history of how the Eastern Block countries managed to clone western machines and get software for it. I've heard a lot of fascionating stories, involving some really genious work, which of course the Western countries didn't appreciate at all then.) One day, some really important and secret people come from the interior ministry, or military, with a tape, which they wanted to transfer to an other tape, and only the university had such a tape drive which could read the original. Well, the sysadmins realized, that this is some important stuff (BOFHs existed here also :-), so while one kept the officials occupied, the other went into the machine room, and hacked the device driver, so that the tape would secretly be copied to disk. They started the transfer, under close supervision, so that no other tape copies were done, and so on. When the people left, they examined what they had. It was a Russian port of the 7th edition, only maybe a couple of years after 7th ed. were created. So they concluded that all the COCOM and other export control regulations weren't really effective :-) Szabolcs