Hello from Gregg C Levine Robin, are you thinking of the V-1 platform? Because that one was pretty capable for a primitive cruise missile weapons platform. That's the only one I can think of that fits your description, after all I did visit the museum a longish time ago, as well. ------------------- Gregg C Levine hansolofalcon at worldnet.att.net ------------------------------------------------------------ "The Force will be with you...Always." Obi-Wan Kenobi "Use the Force, Luke."  Obi-Wan Kenobi (This company dedicates this E-Mail to General Obi-Wan Kenobi ) (This company dedicates this E-Mail to Master Yoda ) > -----Original Message----- > From: pups-bounces at minnie.tuhs.org [mailto:pups-bounces at minnie.tuhs.org] On > Behalf Of robinb at ruffnready.co.uk > Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 5:27 AM > To: Jochen Kunz > Cc: pups at minnie.tuhs.org > Subject: Re: [pups] ACMS (Australian 'puter museum) doomed? > > jkunz at unixag-kl.fh-kl.de wrote: > > On 2003.11.13 00:06 Johnny Billquist wrote: > > > > > Not to demean that effort, but don't the Germans have a Z4 still > > > working in a museum? That would mean something like 1942. > > 1942 would be the Z3, the first computer ever. The Z3 that is in the > > Deutsches Museum is AFAIK a rebuild of the original one. (Rebuild under > > the supervision of Konrad Zuse himself.) I don't know if the Z4 is still > > around. Google for "Konrad Zuse" and / or his son "Horst Zuse". Horst > > Zuse has put much effort in documenting the work of his father. > > > > I know that there is a Zuse Z23 in Karlsruhe. It was build in 1956, > > based on electron tubes, core and drum memory and it is still fully > > functional! > > -- > I searched and found, very very interesting. Zuse's statement that the Colossus team > and himself had been going down similar paths sounds very much like Leibnitz and > Newton over Calculus :-) > > About 10 years ago I went into the National Air and Space museum in Washington > and they had a wind from a Henschel guided missile from World War 2. They > stated that it was built using some of the first computer controlled plant and I always > wondered what it was, well now I know. > > Again, this is very interesting and I am astounded that it isn't widely known or > advertised. > > Robin > > _______________________________________________ > PUPS mailing list > PUPS at minnie.tuhs.org > http://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/pups