From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id d2d26827 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2019 17:23:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 10FD0947C3; Thu, 12 Sep 2019 03:23:01 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64A1A94790; Thu, 12 Sep 2019 03:22:48 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id B888A94790; Thu, 12 Sep 2019 03:22:46 +1000 (AEST) X-Greylist: delayed 475 seconds by postgrey-1.36 at minnie.tuhs.org; Thu, 12 Sep 2019 03:22:46 AEST Received: from fbo-3.mxes.net (fbo-3.mxes.net [198.205.123.65]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6343B93D35 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2019 03:22:46 +1000 (AEST) Received: from smtp-out-3.mxes.net (smtp-out-3.mxes.net [198.205.123.68]) by fbi-3.mxes.lan (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88F3E27375 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2019 13:14:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Customer-MUA (mua.mxes.net [10.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7559E27375 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2019 13:14:47 -0400 (EDT) From: To: "'The Eunuchs Hysterical Society'" References: In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2019 13:14:42 -0400 Message-ID: <009801d568c4$6ad6abf0$408403d0$@ronnatalie.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Thread-Index: AQHmMzR/BX9/pZGtgAXZ64inVDcluQNPc5LBAfnjHuim2tWzIA== Content-Language: en-us X-Sent-To: Subject: Re: [TUHS] PWB vs Unix/TS X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" And SCCS was way easier than anything you could do with cards. My first experience with PWB was maintaining the source code and QA for = a project that was targeted at RSX-11M. Amusingly, it as my job twice at different facilities (BRL and Rutgers) = to get rid of all the card processing equipment. I finally offered to move the Cyber RJE station and its accompanying = keypunch machine into the office of the last person using it. He = finally decided he'd make the jump to timesharing. Amusingly, nobody figured out how to make CyberRJE work from a PDP-11. = The labs had purchased a half dozen PDP-11/34s with a optical card = reader, line printer, and graphical display (Vector General) and a DQ-11 = and 56K (them was fast in those days) short haul modem. Of course, in Mike Muuss's typical style, he said we could use them. = They all got recycled into graphics workstations. Mike wrote a driver = for the Vector General and the first ersatz "BRL CAD" package. We = still used the card reader to read in old "COMGEO" graphic model decks = which CAD could edit. UNIX for the 11/34 (a hybrid V6 kernel), we installed overlays. When = TCP/IP came around which needed another segment register for mbufs, we = just couldn't make it work anymore on a non-split-I/D machine. The = VGs got moved over to the 11/70's and I recycled the 34's into internet = routers. We actually used the DQ's and modems for internal = communciations for a while until we subsequently bought IMPs and later = Proteon rings.