From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 20762 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2023 01:55:44 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (2600:3c01:e000:146::1) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 22 Jul 2023 01:55:44 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 853C1429E4; Sat, 22 Jul 2023 11:55:40 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-yw1-x1129.google.com (mail-yw1-x1129.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::1129]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4252B41059 for ; Sat, 22 Jul 2023 11:55:34 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-yw1-x1129.google.com with SMTP id 00721157ae682-579dfae6855so29338077b3.1 for ; Fri, 21 Jul 2023 18:55:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20221208; t=1689990932; x=1690595732; h=content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:from:references:to :content-language:subject:user-agent:mime-version:date:message-id :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=4K0+gq5AJlwMPEowT8DJImxSO0ncklAH6ie2jq21DTU=; b=ov486l9CBlpyKD0+SeP59nmDn5xOTnsovOPmQMEJRW+EZsh9avGxm5bGEhgqC9Dyc+ HR0WWJFjdKb2FHFPWpTk5DuLsIe7GXT5HHBaqIP4h0Q2+2glBh+ihhRQmvkqy5IkPEIM by7VY5UkPJB2D3ovphaM4QiCHejhExctdTqhuanXbvDyo/P2lbSroUJYpluBbSJ4xuAN nhF+yXLXwtJpWPjWRZg6pzTMOGD/7Ac0bjVW4unr+s+zf0/4gSEiyuReNX+K47tkPzuY uzMUY/UPfyPx8KNXeNF+9Ca/o8cxXTh5wd/d3zBM1I12muRGnJ+KBLIFr7rQEHw4piu+ Kq0Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1689990932; x=1690595732; h=content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:from:references:to :content-language:subject:user-agent:mime-version:date:message-id :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=4K0+gq5AJlwMPEowT8DJImxSO0ncklAH6ie2jq21DTU=; b=SDjb1rdeckzm9E/371ffM1Uy5jlcbW1BxnMYRP2ELHBdsfKv4uDIMeRMDmgBNb9JKV BP2fvnI4Y1HBp4d/iwneOKhCPq0UXnV2CGqCBN9jySvnnbrW+Gkie8mh/nV1ormOmBqA n5l+G2H3gNrU/mq2TtkkDXmVRnqNkQ19WPhCUg0SD07AYigeakhW1zggIW8GQL4LDsCC rnJGT2nEYhvBiNYkozpDq0P4O4t/w5a/q7o8Xlce7fJdzq37URGQ1MJArGcwxduY7hhT m65ALHhgAPrGklhxVLfn/rdzs4fkHymdKm7jpCPXYR0sBaQpy6yVfVlQw9ZaKAyzVRDi Dl3Q== X-Gm-Message-State: ABy/qLYGiAUhgl1qwNLAbOonCsJ+jEHcd71Rpj6L5Q8XUtUKYsaCyAOF g1Q8sMH6G4/1bg5bjZgNov6Zxags1K4= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APBJJlEhdkn3+5qX4HTfQg06gBA0pibtKdTCOZC7sR+l0CJR6QDeUX3NvkXAun5D/Xx3CdEqk6cAmw== X-Received: by 2002:a81:494b:0:b0:569:e7cb:cd4e with SMTP id w72-20020a81494b000000b00569e7cbcd4emr1726364ywa.48.1689990932313; Fri, 21 Jul 2023 18:55:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.4] (23-93-66-145.fiber.dynamic.sonic.net. [23.93.66.145]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id h21-20020a170902f7d500b001b9daaffd26sm4121715plw.304.2023.07.21.18.55.30 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 21 Jul 2023 18:55:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <02da826d-d13a-0c3e-2da7-4ae72605e44f@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2023 18:55:31 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: en-US To: tuhs@tuhs.org References: <9d5cd822-07aa-42e9-4b14-a1b86da0e6bf@tnetconsulting.net> <20230721223017.GA25639@mcvoy.com> From: Jon Forrest In-Reply-To: <20230721223017.GA25639@mcvoy.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID-Hash: BBYSR7FSSFYYCVJNHTNH2X7YZVFV2QJT X-Message-ID-Hash: BBYSR7FSSFYYCVJNHTNH2X7YZVFV2QJT X-MailFrom: nobozo@gmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Cool talk on Unix and Sendmail history, by Eric Allman List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: On 7/21/2023 3:30 PM, Larry McVoy wrote: > I think it was pre-COVID but I had a gathering of systems people at my > place in the Santa Cruz mountains and Kirk and Eric were there. I ended > up talking to Eric for quite a while and what went through my mind was > "This is so pleasant, I'd hire this guy or happily work for this guy. I've had the pleasure and honor of working with and for Eric several times in my career. He's one of the best programmers I've ever seen. Jon