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From: imp@bsdimp.com (Warner Losh)
Subject: [TUHS] Gnu/Stallman (was Bugs in V6 'dcheck')
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2014 12:44:46 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0336AA23-2BB0-4ACE-80DC-570B2A32F19E@bsdimp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140602173521.GX18282@mercury.ccil.org>

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On Jun 2, 2014, at 11:35 AM, John Cowan <cowan at mercury.ccil.org> wrote:

> arnold at skeeve.com scripsit:
> 
> 
>> This is only possible because of the standardization efforts at the
>> C and POSIX levels.  Remember that Autoconf/Automake were invented to
>> solve the issue of all the forks: SunOS / Solaris / HP-UX / Ultrix /
>> MIPS / Pryamid / DG-UX / ad nauseum.   Lots of things that were almost but
>> not quite entirely like V7 or System V Unix.
> 
> Oh, absolutely.  But Autotools themselves are very unstable, so we've
> apparently replaced spatial variation with longitudinal variation.
> The Chicken project was undergoing too much churn trying to run correctly
> with different installed versions of Autotools.  So we switched to CMake,
> but that was even more unstable, and couldn't handle a bootstrapped
> self-compiler well.
> 
> So finally we switched to the current scheme of Makefile fragments.
> Each fragment specifies appropriate cc and ld options, including libraries
> required, and then writes out a chicken-defaults.h file with a bunch of
> HAVE_* macros.  That's all that's needed.

Sounds a bit like imake-uberlite…  Or should I not mention imake lest the love-fest for all things evil continue on it. :)

Warner

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  reply	other threads:[~2014-06-02 18:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-02  2:09 Doug McIlroy
2014-06-02  2:24 ` John Cowan
2014-06-02  2:59 ` Warner Losh
2014-06-02  3:17   ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2014-06-02  3:37     ` John Cowan
2014-06-02  4:08       ` scj
2014-06-02  5:03       ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2014-06-02 12:31         ` Ronald Natalie
2014-06-02  4:04     ` Nick Downing
2014-06-02  4:43       ` John Cowan
2014-06-02  6:23         ` arnold
2014-06-02 17:35           ` John Cowan
2014-06-02 18:44             ` Warner Losh [this message]
2014-06-02 18:52               ` John Cowan
2014-06-02  3:18   ` John Cowan
2014-06-02  6:08   ` Steve Nickolas
2014-06-02 12:04 ` Clem Cole
2014-06-02 12:27   ` Ronald Natalie
2014-06-02 13:28     ` Clem Cole
2014-06-02 14:11       ` Tim Bradshaw
2014-06-02 14:25         ` Clem Cole
2014-06-02 14:41           ` John Cowan
2014-06-02 14:50             ` Armando Stettner
2014-06-02 18:27               ` Brantley Coile
2014-06-02 18:52                 ` Dan Cross
2014-06-02 19:10                   ` arnold
2014-06-03  1:45                     ` Brantley Coile
2014-06-02 19:30                   ` John Cowan
2014-06-02 19:54                     ` Dan Cross
2014-06-02 23:37                       ` John Cowan
2014-06-03  1:24                         ` Dan Cross
2014-06-03  2:16                           ` John Cowan
2014-06-03  2:18                             ` Dan Cross
2014-06-02 19:47                   ` Chris Nehren
2014-06-02 20:23                     ` Dan Cross
2014-06-03 18:48                       ` [TUHS] Evolutionary Paths (was Gnu/Stallman (was Bugs in V6 'dcheck')) scj
2014-06-04  1:10                         ` Larry McVoy
2014-06-04  3:42                           ` Greg Chesson
2014-06-05  0:43                             ` Larry McVoy
2014-06-02 21:08                   ` [TUHS] Gnu/Stallman (was Bugs in V6 'dcheck') Charlie Kester
2014-06-03  0:37                   ` Tim Newsham
2014-06-02 20:06           ` Jacob Goense
2014-06-02 14:26         ` arnold
2014-06-02 14:30       ` John Cowan
2014-06-02 14:24     ` John Cowan
2014-06-02 14:29       ` Ronald Natalie
2014-06-02 14:37       ` Clem Cole
2014-06-05  7:31       ` Arno Griffioen
2014-06-05  8:24         ` emu
2014-06-05  9:17         ` Wesley Parish
2014-06-05 11:26           ` Brantley Coile
2014-06-05 13:34             ` Jesus Cea
2014-06-11 12:10           ` Michael Parson
2014-06-12  1:20             ` Wesley Parish
2014-06-05 15:07         ` Clem Cole
2014-06-05 18:26           ` Ronald Natalie

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