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From: ron@ronnatalie.com (Ron Natalie)
Subject: [TUHS] X, Suntools, and the like
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2017 11:06:20 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <036f01d29f30$09e9a780$1dbcf680$@ronnatalie.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170317130534.8DC5018C09F@mercury.lcs.mit.edu>

I beg to differ.   The Star not only pioneered the WISIWYG application
presentation also the concept of the desktop.   The whole conscept of
dropping documents as icons on the desktop appears to have orginated there.
Of course, as with a lot of nifty stuff PARC and the other Xerox research
guys came up with, it never really saw wholesale product development.

-----Original Message-----
From: TUHS [mailto:tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org] On Behalf Of Noel Chiappa
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 9:06 AM
To: tuhs at minnie.tuhs.org
Cc: jnc at mercury.lcs.mit.edu
Subject: Re: [TUHS] X, Suntools, and the like

    > From: "Ron Natalie"

    > I think most people will attribute the desktop metaphor to Xerox.

Strictly speaking, to Smalltalk (from PARC); things like Bravo, and the
basic user command interface on the Alto (I forget what its name was),
didn't have any concept of windows/desktop (although Bravo did use the
bitmap screen).

     Noel



  reply	other threads:[~2017-03-17 15:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-17 13:05 Noel Chiappa
2017-03-17 15:06 ` Ron Natalie [this message]
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2017-03-17 15:39 Noel Chiappa
2017-03-17 17:56 ` Ron Natalie
2017-03-14 18:49 Ron Natalie
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2017-03-15  1:13                             ` Nick Downing
2017-03-15 10:15                               ` Tim Bradshaw
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2017-03-15 11:03                                     ` Nick Downing
2017-03-15 12:03                                       ` tfb
2017-03-15 13:12                                         ` Nick Downing
2017-03-15 14:37                                           ` tfb
2017-03-15 16:40                                           ` Kurt H Maier
2017-03-15 16:52                                             ` Arthur Krewat
2017-03-16 23:04                                             ` Josh Good
2017-03-16 23:29                                               ` Robert Swierczek
2017-03-17  1:15                                                 ` Nick Downing
2017-03-16 23:29                                               ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2017-03-17  0:05                                                 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2017-03-17  5:55                                                 ` arnold
2017-03-17 12:56                                                 ` Ron Natalie
2017-03-17 15:19                                                 ` Tim Bradshaw
2017-03-17 20:17                                                   ` Josh Good
2017-03-17 20:30                                                     ` Ron Natalie
2017-03-17 20:44                                                       ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2017-03-17 21:08                                                         ` Dan Cross
2017-03-17 22:50                                                           ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2017-03-17 22:58                                                             ` Dan Cross
2017-03-17 23:17                                                               ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2017-03-17 23:22                                                                 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2017-03-18 15:45                                                                 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-03-18 16:59                                                                   ` Andy Kosela
2017-03-18 23:05                                                                     ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-03-18 23:32                                                                       ` Nick Downing
2017-03-19  7:20                                                                         ` Jason Stevens
2017-03-17  0:13                                               ` Larry McVoy
2017-03-17  3:16                                                 ` jsteve
2017-03-23 19:16                                                   ` Michael Parson
2017-03-17 12:39                                                 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-03-17 12:45                                                   ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-03-17 16:49                                                   ` Tony Finch
2017-03-18 15:43                                                     ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-03-17 14:39                                                 ` Arthur Krewat
2017-03-17 16:21                                                   ` Larry McVoy
2017-03-17 16:29                                                     ` Tim Bradshaw
2017-03-17 17:42                                                     ` Steve Nickolas
2017-03-19  6:11                                               ` Robert Brockway
2017-03-19 11:56                                                 ` Josh Good
2017-03-15 20:48                               ` Ron Natalie

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