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From: ron@ronnatalie.com (Ron Natalie)
Subject: [TUHS] X, Suntools, and the like
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2017 13:56:17 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <038d01d29f47$c77e18f0$567a4ad0$@ronnatalie.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170317153902.D3CC418C09F@mercury.lcs.mit.edu>

> PARC _was_ Xerox.

I know PARC was XEROX, the part of my message you edited out clearly says
that.   The quote you misattributed to me was Arnold's.

> The concept of having a graphical front end as the main user interface was
not from the Alto, and the Alto didn't have icons either; both came later
(I'll let the Lisa people and Star people argue that one out).

Yeah, well they can argue, but it's pretty clear Xerox came first.   Of
course, neither the Star  or Lisa were really full fledged commercial
products, but one might argue they are both Alto follow ons.   Jobs had seen
the Alto at PARC before Lisa was very far along.



  reply	other threads:[~2017-03-17 17:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-17 15:39 Noel Chiappa
2017-03-17 17:56 ` Ron Natalie [this message]
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2017-03-17 13:05 Noel Chiappa
2017-03-17 15:06 ` Ron Natalie
2017-03-14 18:49 Ron Natalie
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2017-03-15  1:13                             ` Nick Downing
2017-03-15 10:15                               ` Tim Bradshaw
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2017-03-15 11:03                                     ` Nick Downing
2017-03-15 12:03                                       ` tfb
2017-03-15 13:12                                         ` Nick Downing
2017-03-15 14:37                                           ` tfb
2017-03-15 16:40                                           ` Kurt H Maier
2017-03-15 16:52                                             ` Arthur Krewat
2017-03-16 23:04                                             ` Josh Good
2017-03-16 23:29                                               ` Robert Swierczek
2017-03-17  1:15                                                 ` Nick Downing
2017-03-16 23:29                                               ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2017-03-17  0:05                                                 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2017-03-17  5:55                                                 ` arnold
2017-03-17 12:56                                                 ` Ron Natalie
2017-03-17 15:19                                                 ` Tim Bradshaw
2017-03-17 20:17                                                   ` Josh Good
2017-03-17 20:30                                                     ` Ron Natalie
2017-03-17 20:44                                                       ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2017-03-17 21:08                                                         ` Dan Cross
2017-03-17 22:50                                                           ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2017-03-17 22:58                                                             ` Dan Cross
2017-03-17 23:17                                                               ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2017-03-17 23:22                                                                 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2017-03-18 15:45                                                                 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-03-18 16:59                                                                   ` Andy Kosela
2017-03-18 23:05                                                                     ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-03-18 23:32                                                                       ` Nick Downing
2017-03-19  7:20                                                                         ` Jason Stevens
2017-03-17  0:13                                               ` Larry McVoy
2017-03-17  3:16                                                 ` jsteve
2017-03-23 19:16                                                   ` Michael Parson
2017-03-17 12:39                                                 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-03-17 12:45                                                   ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-03-17 16:49                                                   ` Tony Finch
2017-03-18 15:43                                                     ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-03-17 14:39                                                 ` Arthur Krewat
2017-03-17 16:21                                                   ` Larry McVoy
2017-03-17 16:29                                                     ` Tim Bradshaw
2017-03-17 17:42                                                     ` Steve Nickolas
2017-03-19  6:11                                               ` Robert Brockway
2017-03-19 11:56                                                 ` Josh Good
2017-03-15 20:48                               ` Ron Natalie

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