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From: Mary Ann Horton Gmail <mah@mhorton.net>
To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org
Subject: Re: [TUHS] Floppy to modern files for Usenet maps
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2019 09:28:04 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <03f3d34a-bc7f-4b26-559e-101ccd614ef3@mhorton.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c43a0f17-276e-d023-4cf2-d42f072b05f6@mhorton.net>

I've succeeded in copying the files from floppy. Thanks to everyone for 
the great suggestions!

I used a USB-to-serial adapter, combined with PuTTY and the usual serial 
tools (DB-9 to DB-25 adapter, gender changer, and null modem). I even 
dug out my AT&T PC 6300 MS DOS manual for details on writing BAT files 
(although the main script had a bad habit of exiting after the first 
file got copied). I wound up calling a 3 line script separately for each 
file to be copied over, and using PuTTY's scrolling history to save the 
files.

I've collected these and other old Usenet maps here:

http://www.stargatemuseum.org/maps/

I hope to display these (and hand out a few copies!) in Seattle this week.

Does anyone have anything put together that can easily do the "leroy" 
thing described here:

http://www.stargatemuseum.org/maps/032383.GRF.txt

and produce the graphical map it contains?

     Mary Ann

On 6/23/19 4:10 PM, Mary Ann Horton Gmail wrote:
> Hunting around through my ancient stuff today, I ran across a 5.25" 
> floppy drive labeled as having old Usenet maps. These may have 
> historical interest.
>
> First off, I don't recognize the handwriting on the disk. It's not 
> mine. Does anyone recognize it? (pic attached)
>
> I dug out my AT&T 6300 (XT clone) from the garage and booted it up. 
> The floppy reads just fine. It has files with .MAP extension, which 
> are ASCII Usenet maps from 1980 to 1984, and some .BBM files which are 
> ASCII Usenet backbone maps up to 1987.
>
> There is also a file whose extension is .GRF from 1983 which claims to 
> be a graphical Usenet map.  Does anyone have any idea what GRF is or 
> what this map might be? I recall Brian Reid having a plotter-based 
> Usenet geographic map in 84 or 85.
>
> I'd like to copy these files off for posterity. They read on DOS just 
> fine. Is there a current best practice for copying off files? I would 
> have guessed I'd need a to use the serial port, but my old PC has DOS 
> 2.11 (not much serial copying software on it) and I don't have 
> anything live with a serial port anymore. And it might not help with 
> the GRF file.
>
> I took some photos of the screen with the earliest maps (the ones that 
> fit on one screen.) So it's an option to type things in, at least for 
> the early ASCII ones.
>
> Thanks,
>
>     Mary Ann
>
>

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-07-09 16:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-06-23 23:10 Mary Ann Horton Gmail
2019-06-23 23:52 ` Arthur Krewat
2019-06-24  0:02   ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2019-06-24  0:35     ` Mary Ann Horton Gmail
2019-06-24  0:53       ` Arthur Krewat
2019-06-24  0:56         ` Larry McVoy
2019-06-24  1:12           ` Arthur Krewat
2019-06-24  1:31             ` William Pechter
2019-06-24  1:51               ` Arthur Krewat
2019-06-24  1:40         ` Bakul Shah
2019-06-24  3:20           ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2019-06-24  0:50     ` Arthur Krewat
2019-06-24 21:07     ` Michael Kjörling
2019-06-24 21:30       ` Steve Nickolas
2019-06-24 21:59         ` Gregg Levine
2019-06-23 23:57 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2019-06-24  0:40   ` Mary Ann Horton Gmail
2019-06-24  1:37     ` William Pechter
2019-06-24  3:17     ` Jason Stevens
2019-06-24  1:57   ` Steve Nickolas
2019-06-24  2:09     ` pechter
2019-06-24  0:03 ` Theodore Ts'o
2019-06-24  0:19 ` Seth Morabito
2019-06-24  0:33 ` Larry McVoy
2019-06-24  1:58   ` Steve Nickolas
2019-06-25  3:54 ` Jonathan Gevaryahu
2019-06-25 11:21   ` ckeck
2019-07-09 16:28 ` Mary Ann Horton Gmail [this message]
2019-07-09 16:53   ` KatolaZ
2019-07-09 17:12   ` Henry Bent
2019-07-09 17:25     ` Seth Morabito
2019-07-09 17:34       ` Henry Bent
2019-07-09 19:19         ` Henry Bent
2019-07-09 19:41           ` Richard Salz
2019-07-09 20:09           ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2019-07-09 20:58             ` Henry Bent
2019-07-09 20:54           ` Mary Ann Horton Gmail
2019-07-09 21:30             ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2019-07-09 21:35               ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2019-07-09 21:37             ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2019-07-09 21:46               ` Henry Bent
2019-07-09 22:02                 ` Henry Bent
2019-07-09 23:23                   ` Mary Ann Horton Gmail
2019-07-10  0:06                     ` Dan Cross
2019-07-10  0:26                       ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2019-07-10  0:38                         ` Dan Cross
2019-07-10  0:49                           ` Larry McVoy
2019-07-10  0:57                             ` Clem Cole
2019-07-10  1:26                               ` [TUHS] V0 B Compiler Warren Toomey
2019-07-10  1:29                                 ` Clem Cole
2019-07-10  1:32                                   ` [TUHS] Plot 10 Sources Clem Cole
2019-07-10  2:51                                     ` Charles Anthony
2019-07-10  3:00                                       ` Charles Anthony
2019-07-10  3:01                                       ` Clem Cole
2019-07-10 12:51                                     ` Nelson H. F. Beebe
2019-07-10 14:34                                       ` Clem cole
2019-07-10  1:02                             ` [TUHS] Floppy to modern files for Usenet maps Arthur Krewat
2019-07-10  1:19                               ` Larry McVoy
2019-07-10  1:34                                 ` Dave Horsfall
2019-07-10  0:28                       ` Mary Ann Horton Gmail
2019-07-09 22:01               ` Mary Ann Horton Gmail
2019-07-09 22:44                 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2019-07-09 23:14                   ` Mary Ann Horton Gmail
2019-07-10  0:24                     ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2019-07-10  1:13                       ` Mary Ann Horton Gmail
2019-07-09 17:33     ` Clem Cole
2019-07-15  3:21   ` [TUHS] Historical " Mary Ann Horton Gmail

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