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[72.197.202.72]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id m11sm9182633pgk.65.2019.07.09.09.28.05 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 09 Jul 2019 09:28:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Mary Ann Horton Gmail To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org References: Message-ID: <03f3d34a-bc7f-4b26-559e-101ccd614ef3@mhorton.net> Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2019 09:28:04 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US Subject: Re: [TUHS] Floppy to modern files for Usenet maps X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" I've succeeded in copying the files from floppy. Thanks to everyone for the great suggestions! I used a USB-to-serial adapter, combined with PuTTY and the usual serial tools (DB-9 to DB-25 adapter, gender changer, and null modem). I even dug out my AT&T PC 6300 MS DOS manual for details on writing BAT files (although the main script had a bad habit of exiting after the first file got copied). I wound up calling a 3 line script separately for each file to be copied over, and using PuTTY's scrolling history to save the files. I've collected these and other old Usenet maps here: http://www.stargatemuseum.org/maps/ I hope to display these (and hand out a few copies!) in Seattle this week. Does anyone have anything put together that can easily do the "leroy" thing described here: http://www.stargatemuseum.org/maps/032383.GRF.txt and produce the graphical map it contains?     Mary Ann On 6/23/19 4:10 PM, Mary Ann Horton Gmail wrote: > Hunting around through my ancient stuff today, I ran across a 5.25" > floppy drive labeled as having old Usenet maps. These may have > historical interest. > > First off, I don't recognize the handwriting on the disk. It's not > mine. Does anyone recognize it? (pic attached) > > I dug out my AT&T 6300 (XT clone) from the garage and booted it up. > The floppy reads just fine. It has files with .MAP extension, which > are ASCII Usenet maps from 1980 to 1984, and some .BBM files which are > ASCII Usenet backbone maps up to 1987. > > There is also a file whose extension is .GRF from 1983 which claims to > be a graphical Usenet map.  Does anyone have any idea what GRF is or > what this map might be? I recall Brian Reid having a plotter-based > Usenet geographic map in 84 or 85. > > I'd like to copy these files off for posterity. They read on DOS just > fine. Is there a current best practice for copying off files? I would > have guessed I'd need a to use the serial port, but my old PC has DOS > 2.11 (not much serial copying software on it) and I don't have > anything live with a serial port anymore. And it might not help with > the GRF file. > > I took some photos of the screen with the earliest maps (the ones that > fit on one screen.) So it's an option to type things in, at least for > the early ASCII ones. > > Thanks, > >     Mary Ann > >