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([2600:8800:7c80:98b:2db4:e2b2:8831:652b]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id f5sm13607639qke.109.2020.01.18.13.04.03 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 18 Jan 2020 13:04:03 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.0 \(3608.40.2.2.4\)) From: Adam Thornton In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2020 14:04:01 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <0436FF28-56DE-4167-815A-4AE695D86C94@gmail.com> References: <20200117232457.GA17503@tau1.ceti.pl> <1bda55b6-a221-3baa-2d81-cf19c93610e3@bitsavers.org> <202001182019.00IKJAtK021714@freefriends.org> <742d2a1f-c794-e2d4-4e21-c07d8e5db60c@bitsavers.org> To: The Eunuchs Historic Society X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.40.2.2.4) Subject: Re: [TUHS] bitsavers.org down? X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" > On Jan 18, 2020, at 1:53 PM, Steve Nickolas wrote: >=20 > On Sat, 18 Jan 2020, Adam Thornton wrote: >=20 >> So=E2=80=A6that=E2=80=99s not a lot of archive, so I=E2=80=99m = guessing that it=E2=80=99s outbound bandwidth that will be the driving = cost. But even that=E2=80=A6how popular is it _really_ ? >>=20 >> It seems like, given the nature of the collection, it might not be = hard to persuade one of the cloud providers into discounted rates for = hosting, although=E2=80=A6it=E2=80=99s so small that that might not = work, because that little data, well, you=E2=80=99re not a customer big = enough to have a Google or Amazon rep. >>=20 >> I=E2=80=99ll put out some feelers. Rough bandwidth data, if we can = figure out some way to find it, would be good to have. >=20 > What about renting an OVH server and slapping it on that? I think the = KimSufi 1 is 500 GB disk space - dunno if that's cheap enough. A possibly-stopgap-but-maybe-not-idiotic solution just occurred to me. This isn=E2=80=99t exactly the sort of data that=E2=80=99s GOOD for = hosting via Git, since it=E2=80=99s mostly-binary and mostly-read-only. But checking it into a GitHub public repo until we were told to = stop=E2=80=A6or checking in some indexes, paying for some S3 buckets, = and using Git Large File Support pointing at the buckets for the binary = blobs=E2=80=A6might not be the dumbest idea in the world. I mean, = GitHub is well-indexed, has a lot of incentive to maintain good backups, = and probably isn=E2=80=99t going anywhere any time soon. Adam=