From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, RDNS_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: (qmail 17464 invoked from network); 14 Mar 2020 11:31:14 -0000 Received-SPF: pass (minnie.tuhs.org: domain of minnie.tuhs.org designates 45.79.103.53 as permitted sender) receiver=inbox.vuxu.org; client-ip=45.79.103.53 envelope-from= Received: from unknown (HELO minnie.tuhs.org) (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTP; 14 Mar 2020 11:31:14 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 651B59CDA4; Sat, 14 Mar 2020 21:31:09 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77C379CD78; Sat, 14 Mar 2020 21:30:40 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="ccadhHJD"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id BD7FC9CD73; Sat, 14 Mar 2020 21:30:37 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-lj1-f182.google.com (mail-lj1-f182.google.com [209.85.208.182]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 272EF9CD60 for ; Sat, 14 Mar 2020 21:30:37 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-lj1-f182.google.com with SMTP id f10so13429374ljn.6 for ; Sat, 14 Mar 2020 04:30:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=cTgfNpoNz9gwDwb1PaoiohZFXADtFIR/DlcGzGomkNU=; b=ccadhHJD2gb0oDMcJcqGpt+qAxVNmnhaSgxLw7I5XmEevt9z6wqFibWOFTaIyH8Q30 AMUWQErEKNwYq8IUIR90KvrFEBt6DTbC6b2NgoXKUpM69etk8xerT8SSIGdt4YU6OZtX i37eysMxBhi0TOeoK/wtzhMLOxFfZqUZt0WT2KtKlFmaofIBwj8MG2Xy9QNjQMXnYTBK 74mEEspvAD8LKRz1bYUgxxhK0oRkjFCUCLxptIsD4EOMqyJ6BVIJcu0YufxAq8G88dlx Aw+HuDSQPhaP0xR/qqHMCbfg5SM+ad1YIIZ/SSJsyy1+8H6z02mKtdZOhO1763AGiOZL N/NA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=cTgfNpoNz9gwDwb1PaoiohZFXADtFIR/DlcGzGomkNU=; b=dg0vflUAziU4ZHK1tsnYmHf2OXXmdUPnJxkBXznKkVZQ1gFRndDoCo0HvKhIUTv7s8 R/Pwhli8SsfHwX+rYKePYAg8Rq6n8nPvWfo2/8WsxKrjELvbWW5xF3/SrPa3O2MVowjP MHjlQYRm1upOr1KLoaSU6G0bgVW7mlgO0eGt+7hRzPJZaIUwwJKrR364QmImYebY9cnr 6GfEbDL8tMSvmoi8XTBt4LlW53ohCbKv5LOgUOpnRei0zLsiA+/tWcTSJzrtVkNpT7ra pl7LJ6jbEYDABgsdDZHyuMkOuBrnPzPrfkximAFAH5gaFMMt2AkWp74jUJWpH6MtG7PT l2sQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ANhLgQ0qqhvEwtcxI4AZvxrdztQOL4v7ChNpMOyiHrkrVxTrTZXpdk/L BnIB0+wk7Q+lmGlbnYx0QvbgE6go X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADFU+vvpCOP5ql3OAFNG1+ElKTKHNQ7v03djq+7bZm71JKw+LQVtYAwSuX0fMmrxIKC57kFNt66ncA== X-Received: by 2002:a2e:7d02:: with SMTP id y2mr11126358ljc.62.1584185434959; Sat, 14 Mar 2020 04:30:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?IPv6:2a01:79c:cebf:7fb0:d967:6cf9:736f:4613? ([2a01:79c:cebf:7fb0:d967:6cf9:736f:4613]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id f24sm12848531ljm.68.2020.03.14.04.30.33 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 14 Mar 2020 04:30:34 -0700 (PDT) To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org References: <202003132331.02DNVaxN061501@tahoe.cs.Dartmouth.EDU> From: Harald Arnesen Message-ID: <0538034f-98cb-1063-b94d-e7b77b548d6d@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2020 12:30:33 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <202003132331.02DNVaxN061501@tahoe.cs.Dartmouth.EDU> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [TUHS] The most surprising Unix programs X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" Doug McIlroy [14.03.2020 00:31]: > struct > > Brenda Baker undertook her Fortan-to-Ratfor converter against the advice > of her department head--me. I thought it would likely produce an ad hoc > reordering of the orginal, freed of statement numbers, but otherwise no > more readable than a properly indented Fortran program. Brenda proved > me wrong. She discovered that every Fortran program has a canonically > structured form. Programmers preferred the canonicalized form to what > they had originally written. I've been trying to find the source to this. I have lots of old spaghetti-Fortran routines from a former job, and I would love to try making it somewhat understandable. -- Hilsen Harald