From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 10344 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2021 23:13:09 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 8 Feb 2021 23:13:09 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 1B08B9C7A3; Tue, 9 Feb 2021 09:13:03 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7C6E9BA51; Tue, 9 Feb 2021 09:12:50 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="key not found in DNS" (0-bit key; unprotected) header.d=smtpservice.net header.i=@smtpservice.net header.b="fM4mTIEs"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 8453A9BA51; Tue, 9 Feb 2021 09:12:48 +1000 (AEST) X-Greylist: delayed 841 seconds by postgrey-1.36 at minnie.tuhs.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2021 09:12:47 AEST Received: from a1i751.smtp2go.com (a1i751.smtp2go.com [43.228.186.239]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3BD049BA43 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2021 09:12:47 +1000 (AEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=smtpservice.net; s=m33y30.a1-4.dyn; x=1612826867; h=Feedback-ID: X-Smtpcorp-Track:To:Message-Id:Reply-To:Date:From:Subject:Sender: List-Unsubscribe; bh=nynZiziPWkq0Mko6WxtMrqWhKjwh97XWflP/o/uUS1w=; b=fM4mTIEs G+gkw+hX0MgKxx776W+PIbFtrc4teeKsnd7yQB5bxzEH6ukvvyIpGYcPmweJEKh0RTqajCJCZcHDQ V/7krxb8F1e7jh1CCHIBVztvQNhFpFikxBccTBMyFkpVP8+IV0frlmp1YGHFz1j9DqUis7N7N5291 df1EY7kNtJqioNPv/gwtgECCZvUzbP47L3mA8ywa0Cj/hMyVkTYKD99IB2AowWA6CVSF80RtRc8kr BEJLq/wn2EMFsOCbgA5XwXScmSwhSaKL+b4RkEQy6hUwZ674mnJ+czJkJqZoHtmBqltP03VEdmj4X xy23gnCAigHuHNLQOx10r+tW5A==; Received: from [10.45.33.53] (helo=SmtpCorp) by smtpcorp.com with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92-S2G) (envelope-from ) id 1l9FU6-bePEDt-KJ; Mon, 08 Feb 2021 22:58:22 +0000 Received: from [10.107.193.50] (helo=kdbarto.org) by smtpcorp.com with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92-S2G) (envelope-from ) id 1l9FU5-rlZFyy-Tu; Mon, 08 Feb 2021 22:58:21 +0000 Received: from zaphod.local (zaphod.local [IPv6:fe80::1cf5:3b1d:75df:51d]) by kdbarto.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 60AD15C067B; Mon, 8 Feb 2021 14:58:20 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.60.0.2.21\)) From: David Barto In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2021 14:58:19 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <06167F4D-5726-41C2-9A1D-906E8EA146A0@kdbarto.org> References: <5cb7edc8-7d43-aa3a-334f-18e17aa2fa16@gmail.com> <2ffbcab8-b651-c3f9-d4ed-e9ff792cfde6@mhorton.net> To: Dave Horsfall X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.60.0.2.21) X-Smtpcorp-Track: 1_9Fl5r_ZFyyTI.mfmemBS2ENWAo Feedback-ID: 145083m:145083a-yaNWS:145083s-kBbl2P7D X-Report-Abuse: Please forward a copy of this message, including all headers, to Subject: Re: [TUHS] Typing tutors X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: david@kdbarto.org Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" In HS COBOL was the only programming class offered. We punched the cards = and got overnight service from the data center for the district. When I = was a senior we got an ASR-33 that talked to a Honeywell at a local uni. = With it we could login and run Basic programs. Real programming (APL, FORTRAN, UCSD Pascal, IBM 360 Assembly) awaited = for me at UCSD. David > On Feb 8, 2021, at 2:20 PM, Dave Horsfall wrote: >=20 > On Sat, 6 Feb 2021, John Cowan wrote: >=20 >> > I'm probably a youngster in this crowd (no, I'm not calling you old = > farts, more like people with a long history I respect and am willing > = to learn from). >=20 >> In computer circles, that is what "old fart" means. >=20 > I know that I'm gonna be outclassed here, but I taught myself BASIC, = ALGOL, and FORTRAN (ugh! well, it was WATFOR then WATFIV) from my school = days in the late 60s onwards. >=20 > COBOL tried to be drilled into me, but I firmly rejected it (but for = some odd reason I still know it, but deny all knowledge of it). >=20 > -- Dave