From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id ed66a585 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 00:58:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 019C89BCCE; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 10:58:19 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ABD19BC44; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 10:58:09 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key; unprotected) header.d=kilonet.net header.i=@kilonet.net header.b="jncW3hFq"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id A28889BC44; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 10:58:07 +1000 (AEST) X-Greylist: delayed 438 seconds by postgrey-1.36 at minnie.tuhs.org; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 10:58:07 AEST Received: from p3plsmtpa09-02.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa09-02.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.193.231]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 436809BC43 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 10:58:07 +1000 (AEST) Received: from medusa.kilonet.net ([72.69.11.12]) by :SMTPAUTH: with ESMTPA id fDC4hw6gFiTeDfDC5hkkqd; Sun, 23 Jun 2019 17:50:49 -0700 Received: from [199.89.231.101] (ender.kilonet.net [199.89.231.101]) by medusa.kilonet.net (8.14.8/8.15.1) with ESMTP id x5O0ompR027004 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2019 20:50:48 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kilonet.net; s=default; t=1561337448; bh=IfQCAT+w2o47xFtN3ec/NR6GGN/ckWxl99rBpcNekc4=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=jncW3hFqN+5a7zTqoc4dZQ4gAkIy2ypcYeaQt+5nSTD847sXqI2AAFruWUl9LyVQT MbV11SsAmbkqHpkEvoWsZXkNRvc4SkFkausE6caSpud4LAH1XmFVfs9wgLoCxPmHix uQmkbMrVRG7E5o5Gd5CG3Dd1rkKbO0JyJ+7Nki+g= To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org References: From: Arthur Krewat Message-ID: <061daf0b-e01c-075f-2b01-ef0db7bbf2b6@kilonet.net> Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2019 20:50:47 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfLL65bt2RbdEULpSdrtLhKuBWr8dJNkvRmO2+7BeMawJEhPvbqmdj/EXr0b0FYAcqivb+HbKJ5mkYurWy4z+LlvncAL4kXz1WmY2sDZRWsAkka5ZaZi6 QKYGRMqfGdrf/jWCrZMY22RfoZYNFgz5GMT20Fd2RxZfpAvtZyMS9xzp Subject: Re: [TUHS] Floppy to modern files for Usenet maps X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" Another thing to think about, and that's only because I'm a dumpster-diver, is what's in the unallocated sectors? ;) On 6/23/2019 8:02 PM, Grant Taylor via TUHS wrote: > On 6/23/19 5:52 PM, Arthur Krewat wrote: >> Does the AT&T have a serial port? >> >> Kermit would be the way I'd go, but since you say you have nothing >> with serial ports, that could be a problem. A cheap usb-to-serial >> port might be in order. Then you can run Kermit 95 on a Windows 7 or >> earlier machine. (might work on later OS's too, but it's not supported) >> >> The flip side is how to get Kermit onto the DOS machine. > > Does Kermit have an option like INTERLNK & INTERSVR have where you can > run a "copy COM1 INTERxxx.EXE" to push the software across the serial > port? Not that I'm aware of. Things like NULs, and ^S can really ruin your day. Not to mention ^Z which a DOS copy might interpret as EOF. I only ever wrote programs to access the UART directly, but I remember my attempts at COPY or other DOS-specific ways of dealing with serial ports were never very successful. But that might have had more to do with buffer overruns (or in the case of the 8250 in the XT, a lack of a FIFO ala-16550 in the first place). Redirecting LPT1 to COM1 using MODE, I used to print to an LA100 using hardware handshaking. >> I used a floppy recovery service a while back to read my old >> Commodore 64/PET disks - he was relatively inexpensive, and very >> responsive. >> >> http://retrofloppy.com/ > > If the machine is able to read the files without error, then a > recovery service might not be necessary.  IMHO it's a question of > getting one or more copies onto something else so that the existing > floppy isn't the only copy. Of course, but in some cases, a few $'s thrown at the problem is easier than messing around with something you don't want to mess around with ;) I would be happy to contribute.