From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [IPv6:2600:3c01:e000:146::1]) by inbox.vuxu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBF86238BB for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2024 18:01:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03C164312B; Thu, 4 Jul 2024 02:01:24 +1000 (AEST) Received: from relay1-d.mail.gandi.net (relay1-d.mail.gandi.net [IPv6:2001:4b98:dc4:8::221]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6326743107 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 2024 02:01:16 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2F507240006 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2024 16:01:12 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bitsavers.org; s=gm1; t=1720022473; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=gzkOWmhnmG9Kjv+namqPhLfLlwtWmihyifAPXN/3jUQ=; b=JXNYpJ6g8/0CkWH5rbHJRQ0PXtuwDm94C1YEiZmyDaSLR6fjf0LxngXqJJ9BHr+lDxIvJV 5D56mrn3d+qtZ5rd+12un9FsV5X2npL9AzMaWNDrmcqTBjxX/C++RUf0PcwQfRuBV4IA3s xXvAp1p4D1CBNm9r6o5K9t+wBCP1FddE6ym6WQtlvO+6OjPMn1EECWd89Wh8oqWBEToIl3 +IDhMAQ3NosuV0CRI0hLlW29DriqISZQZhtoBL9Zn2Qfn5/JRhf+p2JajKqefVsHPvD3jq CvELgAekIJkC28qUygWbD9cocqdBf16DNwzd6JM7bT+zNmtkA0fUULlKWPjNBQ== To: tuhs@tuhs.org References: <93529CA0-7097-443C-999B-384BE6BD5683@canb.auug.org.au> <805f0ceb-c327-aaad-a13f-cfb3aab5c528@bitsavers.org> From: Al Kossow Message-ID: <06704bb6-f699-8407-5d73-bf2777374ca3@bitsavers.org> Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2024 09:01:09 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <805f0ceb-c327-aaad-a13f-cfb3aab5c528@bitsavers.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GND-Sasl: aek@bitsavers.org Message-ID-Hash: BO22JOZENHHDMKKB52FPLLNOUHL73VB4 X-Message-ID-Hash: BO22JOZENHHDMKKB52FPLLNOUHL73VB4 X-MailFrom: aek@bitsavers.org X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Anyone ever heard of teaching a case study of Initial Unix? List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: > On 7/3/24 8:17 AM, Vincenzo Nicosia wrote: > >> I think it would be terribly misleading to teach young CS students that >> software projects should be managed "as Unix v6 came to life". They will >> never, ever find anything even close to that environment in a >> professional workplace. Also, it is unlikely they will ever bootstrap an operating system from scratch. No company would invest its resources doing so when they can find something for free that will be "good enough". It isn't even likely they will implement any major new libraries or compilers and will just use what is out there already. Again, a project "make vs buy" even if the "buy" is free as in beer.