To be fair, one of my kids is an engineer, and definitely has several computers. But the others who are not, do not have personal computers, they have phones. On 01/19/2023 03:39 PM, Luther Johnson wrote: > > I think development environments will follow the people onto their > preferred platforms, and will change or adapt as necessary. So the > kind of computing we are used to, with a "computer", may become more > and more marginalized. Business will go where the numbers are, and > what we think of as mainstream will become "retro" or "vintage". Most > of my acquaintances who are 20 or 30 years younger than me, or my > now-grown children, already think using a "computer" is kind of a > "boomer" thing. > > On 01/19/2023 03:29 PM, Rich Salz wrote: >> >> What % of people running Chromebooks, Android or IOS >> do any real programming on it? Even for laptops and >> desktops that % is quite low. Most people run just a >> few apps. >> >> >> So what. How many people fix their own cars, TVs, etc. >