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[107.215.223.229]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id y6-20020a056602178600b00704b325b448sm4277173iox.8.2023.01.19.08.59.13 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 19 Jan 2023 08:59:13 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3731.300.101.1.3\)) From: Bakul Shah In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2023 08:59:03 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <0882D9CA-FAC8-4EC6-BA82-CE1D457423E5@iitbombay.org> References: <202301180943.30I9hrOw030485@freefriends.org> <202301181513.30IFDDUJ015224@freefriends.org> <20230118151446.GD2964@mcvoy.com> <20230118161959.GE2964@mcvoy.com> To: Dan Cross X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3731.300.101.1.3) Message-ID-Hash: VWG5HOZ4RDHMUNQCHT36IHOPVOAHZUTJ X-Message-ID-Hash: VWG5HOZ4RDHMUNQCHT36IHOPVOAHZUTJ X-MailFrom: bakul@iitbombay.org X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: AIX moved into maintainance mode List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: On Jan 19, 2023, at 7:05 AM, Dan Cross wrote: >=20 > Meh. I don't know. I'll make a prediction: at least one of the BSDs > will outlive Linux. Even though I prefer *BSD to Linux I am afraid this is unlikely when people are talking about porting =C2=B5Clinux to a 10 cent riscv part (CH32V003)! Granted it is not a full linux but still. BSDs have no resources for this. Worse, many of these parts are insufficiently documented, the same disease that afflicts all the io device vendors who provide some windows/Linux driver but not enough detailed documentation. And we will likely see more such embedded devices in all sorts of inexpensive widgets. > Linux right now sort of reminds me of commercial Unix in the 90s. > Personally, I think something's going to come from out of left field > and displace it within the next 15 years, just like Linux displaced > (and yes, killed) commercial Unix. Compatibility shims for the API > will continue to exist, but the implementation will be very different. I wonder if the era of general purpose computers will survive.=