From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 24355 invoked from network); 9 Aug 2022 18:54:16 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 9 Aug 2022 18:54:16 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EE7D40D58; Wed, 10 Aug 2022 04:54:14 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mta-202a.earthlink-vadesecure.net (mta-202a.earthlink-vadesecure.net [51.81.232.240]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B8E8540D57 for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2022 04:54:09 +1000 (AEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; bh=aJzI+rXCcIGQcubUDqcbeDEbXWaoD+ws11C7Gk E5zg8=; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=earthlink.net; h=from:reply-to:subject: date:to:cc:resent-date:resent-from:resent-to:resent-cc:in-reply-to: references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post: list-owner:list-archive; q=dns/txt; s=dk12062016; t=1660071249; x=1660676049; b=k8U0vhTTjzepJg4/pN7MezZNL58RfNgJ5u76uatHJdL7lSk0rp+Hef7 JZZocoPwQkBWOQvSzXT8jkgw0X2uuXdR/IZCMtn6BtxMgO6WM1CMJbklptZ+0ZG9MQEI+cb SO3UXJlYiBDwGSzUvZnSy+WXxZ8v2QRzfwu153XJdLGOuSIF09JmintiQnJgIV5Skg+R4Re thetmUSZVSH1xhpKvhmaRkSVq6u72QWiNTFUX+25LDzSpH+H6+fhEFc7i5IPinQAGVHV3o+ GYVls5UBnJ5pd685TJAOxFtJ0V4fGTfbS/lWfuK/lRKABXgaShmWy0p+e7wyqyILDKb262u Sqg== Received: from [192.168.1.93] ([47.14.68.45]) by smtp.earthlink-vadesecure.net ESMTP vsel2nmtao02p with ngmta id d4e2dadf-1709c20171a97ab5; Tue, 09 Aug 2022 18:54:09 +0000 Message-ID: <092e2eda-9b02-39a9-9de3-8343cd337d78@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2022 14:54:08 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.12.0 Content-Language: en-US References: <20220809174232.A882C18C08A@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> <20220809184910.GC21168@mcvoy.com> From: Tom Teixeira To: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society In-Reply-To: <20220809184910.GC21168@mcvoy.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Authentication-Results: earthlink-vadesecure.net; auth=pass smtp.auth=tjteixeira@earthlink.net smtp.mailfrom=tjteixeira@earthlink.net; Message-ID-Hash: PDWU7ZHU5SPOPHB2J6IM63NJ5YFADTG7 X-Message-ID-Hash: PDWU7ZHU5SPOPHB2J6IM63NJ5YFADTG7 X-MailFrom: tjteixeira@earthlink.net X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: SNOBOL and RATSNO List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: On 8/9/22 2:49 PM, Larry McVoy wrote: > On Tue, Aug 09, 2022 at 01:42:32PM -0400, Noel Chiappa wrote: >> > From: Rob Pike >> >> > I still marvel at the productivity and precision of his generatio >> >> We noticed the same thing happening in the IETF, as the number of people >> working on networking went up. The explanation is really quite simple, once >> you think about it a bit. >> >> If you have a very small group, it is quite possible to have a very high >> level. (Not if it's selected randomly, of course; there has to be some >> sorting function.) However, as the group gets much larger, it is >> _necessarily_ much more 'average' in the skill/etc level of its members. > I used to complain about this at Sun and was dryly told "We get it, > Larry, you are yeast. You need flour to make bread." > > And as time went on, I found that the smart people tended to find each > other. So it was fine. > > It is more fun when it is a highly curated group of smart people. Made > me work hard to keep up. Put another way, "If you're always the smartest person in the room, you're spending your time in the wrong rooms."