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max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: "tuhs@tuhs.org" X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Reaction to the 3B2 at Bell Labs List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --_000_0EB50C1FD22640BF8F4243CB988B036Ejctaylorcom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a 3b2/300. Anytime you run a command that is compute bound, like fa= ctoring a large prime number, the CPU buzzes! Bill Corcoran On Nov 27, 2022, at 9:52 AM, John P. Linderman wrote: =EF=BB=BF [EXTERNAL] We were "gifted" a 3B2, as in "take this and use it!". I ran a "ps" command= in single user mode, and it took 20 seconds to run. Our machine names were themed around bird names, so we christened the 3B2 "= junco". Our director said we had to get along, so we renamed it "jay". But everyone knew what the J stood for. The 3B2 ser= ved as a doorstop. On Sat, Nov 26, 2022 at 11:44 PM Phil Budne > wrote: Larry McVoy wrote: > I read the Wikipedia page on the 9000. It's sad that the 9000 > wasn't cancelled when they had better alternatives. In an oral history Bob Supnik described Ken Olsen couldn't get his head around the fact that the NVAX chip could equal the 9000: @2:59:45 in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DT3tcCBHRIfU=0D=0A In part 2, Bob described how then DEC VP Gordon Bell having earlier predicted when the microprocessor performance curve would cross over minis and mainframes: @1:51:45 in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DT3tcCBHRIfU He also talks about how the company couldn't command the bsame gross margins as it did in the VAX era. THIS IS AN EXTERNAL EMAIL -- This email was sent from someone OUTSIDE of th= e NSM Insurance Group email system. PLEASE USE CAUTION WHEN REVIEWING THIS = EMAIL. --_000_0EB50C1FD22640BF8F4243CB988B036Ejctaylorcom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a 3b2/300.  Anytime you run a command that is compute bound, li= ke factoring a large prime number, the CPU buzzes!



Bill Corcoran


 
 
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On Nov 27, 2022, at 9:52 AM, John P. Linderman <jpl.jpl@gmai= l.com> wrote:

=EF=BB=BF

<= span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:#9C6500">[EXTERNAL]


We were "gifted= " a 3B2, as in "take this and use it!". I ran a "ps&quo= t; command in single user mode, and it took 20 seconds to run.
Our machine names we= re themed around bird names, so we christened the 3B2 "junco". Ou= r director said we had to get along,
so we renamed it &qu= ot;jay". But everyone knew what the J stood for. The 3B2 served as a d= oorstop.

On Sat, Nov 26, 2022 at 11:44 PM Phil= Budne <phil@ultimate.com> w= rote:
Larry McVoy wrote:
> I read the Wikipedia page on the 9000.  It's sad that the 9000 > wasn't cancelled when they had better alternatives.

In an oral history Bob Supnik described Ken Olsen couldn't get his
head around the fact that the NVAX chip could equal the 9000:

@2:59:45 in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DT3tcCBHRIfU

In part 2, Bob described how then DEC VP Gordon Bell having earlier
predicted when the microprocessor performance curve would cross over
minis and mainframes:

@1:51:45 in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DT3tcCBHRIfU

He also talks about how the company couldn't command the bsame gross
margins as it did in the VAX era.


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