Re: [TUHS] 4.4BSD sparc, pmax binary recently compiled

Re: [TUHS] 4.4BSD sparc, pmax binary recently compiled

[Jason Stevens]

Wow this is nothing short of GREAT!

I always wanted to tackle this but it was out of my reach as I barely got
anything from this lineage to build to anything.

Most excellent!


-----Original Message-----
From: MOCHIDA Shuji
To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org
Sent: 3/6/21 10:42 AM
Subject: [TUHS] 4.4BSD sparc, pmax binary recently compiled


 I compiled 4.4BSD to get pmax and sparc binary, from CSRG Archive
CD-ROM #4
source code.

    http://www.netside.co.jp/~mochid/comp/bsd44-build/

  pmax:
    - Works on GXemul DECstaion(PMAX) emulation.
    - I used binutils 2.6 and gcc 2.7.2.3 taken from Gnu ftp site,
      as 4.4BSD src does not contain pmax support part in as, ld,
      gcc and gdb.
    - Lack of GDB. I got rid of compile errors of gdb 4.16, but that
      does not work yet.
    - gcc included can not deal c++ static constructor. So,
contrib/groff
      can not be compiled. Instead, it uses old/{nroff,troff,eqn,tbl..}.

  sparc:
    - Works on sun4c. I use on SPARCstation 2, real hardware.
      TME sun4c emulation can boot to single user, but it locks up in
      middle of /etc/rc.
 
 CSRG Archive CD-ROM #4's source code (just after Lite2 release) seems
have differences from CSRG's binary distributions before (2 times),
e.g. mount systemcall is not compatible.

 I used NetBSD 1.0/sparc, NetBSD 1.1/pmax for 1st (slightly) cross
compiling. NetBSD 1.0/sparc boots and works well on TME emulator.
SunOS 4.1.4, Solaris7 works too, but this 4.4BSD binary doesn't..

-mochid

Re: [TUHS] 4.4BSD sparc, pmax binary recently compiled

[MOCHIDA Shuji]

>  gxemul -X -e 3max -db:./bsd44f-pmax-self-20210224.dkimg -j vmunix

 You may add -o '-s' to boot single user, for setting time.

  # TZ=Japan date
  Sat Mar 6 20:11:12 JST 1994
  # TZ=Japan date 2103062012
  Sat Mar 6 20:12:00 JST 2021
  # fsck -p
  # ^D

That is same as NetBSD 1.1/pmax. Emulator GXemul returns fixed year
value 72 in gxemul-0.6.2/src/devices/dev_mc146818.cc
mc146818_update_time():244, 4.4BSD's src/sys/pmax/pmax/clock.c
inittodr() do year + YR_OFFSET -> 94, evry time you boot.

> Now I just need to figure out how to get things in and out of there!

 gxemul support NAPT networking by default, router 10.0.0.254 prepared.
You can add same network address to le0.

  # ifconfig le0 10.0.0.3
  # route add default 10.0.0.254

 If your gxemul is by pkgsrc, and above 0.6.2nb1, tap(4) support exists.

 I can use NFS (mount_nfs -P), and amd (use mount:=, unmount:=),
though low speed and unstable.

-mochid

Re: [TUHS] 4.4BSD sparc, pmax binary recently compiled

[Michael Huff]

Truly wonderful stuff -thank you for putting it together!

It took me a bit to puzzle out what to type, mostly because I'm 
unfamiliar with gxemul. What finally did the trick for me (on NetBSD 
9.1) was:

  gxemul -X -e 3max -db:./bsd44f-pmax-self-20210224.dkimg -j vmunix

Now I just need to figure out how to get things in and out of there!

Thank you so, so much!

On 3/5/2021 5:42 PM, MOCHIDA Shuji wrote:
>   I compiled 4.4BSD to get pmax and sparc binary, from CSRG Archive CD-ROM #4
> source code.
>
>      http://www.netside.co.jp/~mochid/comp/bsd44-build/
>
>    pmax:
>      - Works on GXemul DECstaion(PMAX) emulation.
>      - I used binutils 2.6 and gcc 2.7.2.3 taken from Gnu ftp site,
>        as 4.4BSD src does not contain pmax support part in as, ld,
>        gcc and gdb.
>      - Lack of GDB. I got rid of compile errors of gdb 4.16, but that
>        does not work yet.
>      - gcc included can not deal c++ static constructor. So, contrib/groff
>        can not be compiled. Instead, it uses old/{nroff,troff,eqn,tbl..}.
>
>    sparc:
>      - Works on sun4c. I use on SPARCstation 2, real hardware.
>        TME sun4c emulation can boot to single user, but it locks up in
>        middle of /etc/rc.
>   
>   CSRG Archive CD-ROM #4's source code (just after Lite2 release) seems
> have differences from CSRG's binary distributions before (2 times),
> e.g. mount systemcall is not compatible.
>
>   I used NetBSD 1.0/sparc, NetBSD 1.1/pmax for 1st (slightly) cross
> compiling. NetBSD 1.0/sparc boots and works well on TME emulator.
> SunOS 4.1.4, Solaris7 works too, but this 4.4BSD binary doesn't..
>
> -mochid

Re: [TUHS] 4.4BSD sparc, pmax binary recently compiled

[Rico Pajarola]

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great work, this is really cool!

I'll give this a try on a real DECstation when I get a chance

On Fri, Mar 5, 2021 at 6:43 PM MOCHIDA Shuji <mochid@netside.co.jp> wrote:

>
>  I compiled 4.4BSD to get pmax and sparc binary, from CSRG Archive CD-ROM
> #4
> source code.
>
>     http://www.netside.co.jp/~mochid/comp/bsd44-build/
>
>   pmax:
>     - Works on GXemul DECstaion(PMAX) emulation.
>     - I used binutils 2.6 and gcc 2.7.2.3 taken from Gnu ftp site,
>       as 4.4BSD src does not contain pmax support part in as, ld,
>       gcc and gdb.
>     - Lack of GDB. I got rid of compile errors of gdb 4.16, but that
>       does not work yet.
>     - gcc included can not deal c++ static constructor. So, contrib/groff
>       can not be compiled. Instead, it uses old/{nroff,troff,eqn,tbl..}.
>
>   sparc:
>     - Works on sun4c. I use on SPARCstation 2, real hardware.
>       TME sun4c emulation can boot to single user, but it locks up in
>       middle of /etc/rc.
>
>  CSRG Archive CD-ROM #4's source code (just after Lite2 release) seems
> have differences from CSRG's binary distributions before (2 times),
> e.g. mount systemcall is not compatible.
>
>  I used NetBSD 1.0/sparc, NetBSD 1.1/pmax for 1st (slightly) cross
> compiling. NetBSD 1.0/sparc boots and works well on TME emulator.
> SunOS 4.1.4, Solaris7 works too, but this 4.4BSD binary doesn't..
>
> -mochid
>

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[TUHS] 4.4BSD sparc, pmax binary recently compiled

[MOCHIDA Shuji]

 I compiled 4.4BSD to get pmax and sparc binary, from CSRG Archive CD-ROM #4
source code.

    http://www.netside.co.jp/~mochid/comp/bsd44-build/

  pmax:
    - Works on GXemul DECstaion(PMAX) emulation.
    - I used binutils 2.6 and gcc 2.7.2.3 taken from Gnu ftp site,
      as 4.4BSD src does not contain pmax support part in as, ld,
      gcc and gdb.
    - Lack of GDB. I got rid of compile errors of gdb 4.16, but that
      does not work yet.
    - gcc included can not deal c++ static constructor. So, contrib/groff
      can not be compiled. Instead, it uses old/{nroff,troff,eqn,tbl..}.

  sparc:
    - Works on sun4c. I use on SPARCstation 2, real hardware.
      TME sun4c emulation can boot to single user, but it locks up in
      middle of /etc/rc.
 
 CSRG Archive CD-ROM #4's source code (just after Lite2 release) seems
have differences from CSRG's binary distributions before (2 times),
e.g. mount systemcall is not compatible.

 I used NetBSD 1.0/sparc, NetBSD 1.1/pmax for 1st (slightly) cross
compiling. NetBSD 1.0/sparc boots and works well on TME emulator.
SunOS 4.1.4, Solaris7 works too, but this 4.4BSD binary doesn't..

-mochid