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From: Jason Stevens <jsteve@superglobalmegacorp.com>
To: 'Bakul Shah ' <bakul@iitbombay.org>, 'Rob Pike ' <robpike@gmail.com>
Cc: 'The Eunuchs Hysterical Society ' <tuhs@tuhs.org>
Subject: Re: [TUHS] 70th anniversary of (official) programming errors
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2021 16:16:20 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0F0B9BFC06289346B88512B91E55670D3018@EXCHANGE> (raw)

 Sounds very "Deus ex machina" like.  Although it's hard to staple a ghost
to your notebook.

-----Original Message-----
From: Bakul Shah
To: Rob Pike
Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society
Sent: 6/16/21 12:13 PM
Subject: Re: [TUHS] 70th anniversary of (official) programming errors

https://spectrum.ieee.org/the-institute/ieee-history/did-you-know-edison
-coined-the-term-bug
<https://spectrum.ieee.org/the-institute/ieee-history/did-you-know-ediso
n-coined-the-term-bug> 

Like Edison, she (Grace Hopper) was recalling the word’s older origins
in the Welsh bwg, the Scottish bogill or bogle, the German bögge, and
the Middle English bugge: the hobgoblins of pre-modern life, resurrected
in the 19th century as, to paraphrase philosopher Gilbert Ryle, ghosts
in the machine.


Electrical circuits can have "bad connections" so I do wonder if Edison
coined this word based on "ghost like" faults that magically appear and
disappear!

-- Bakul


On Jun 15, 2021, at 8:48 PM, Rob Pike <robpike@gmail.com> wrote:

There are citations from Edison in the 19th century using the word, and
a quote somewhere by Maurice Wilkes about the stairwell moment when he
realized much of the rest of his life would be spent finding programming
errors.

That moth was not the first bug, nor the first "bug", it was the first
recorded "actual bug".


-rob


On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 9:46 AM Dan Cross < crossd@gmail.com
<mailto:crossd@gmail.com> > wrote:


On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 6:55 PM John Cowan < cowan@ccil.org
<mailto:cowan@ccil.org> > wrote:


On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 6:25 PM Steffen Nurpmeso < steffen@sdaoden.eu
<mailto:steffen@sdaoden.eu> > wrote:

As not being hard-to-the-core i may have missed it, but also in
1951, in March, the wonderful Grace Hopper "conceives the first
compiler, called A-O and later released as Math-Matic.  Hopper is
also credited with coining the term 'bug' following an incident
involving a moth and a Mark II.



Yes, but wrongly.  The label next to the moth is "First actual case of
bug being found", and the word "actual" shows that the slang term
already existed then.  Brief unexplained faults on telephony (and before
that telegraphy) lines were "bugs on the line" back in the 19C.
Vibroplex telegraph keys, first sold in 1905, had a picture of a beetle
on the top of the key, and were notorious for creating bugs when
inexperienced operators used them.  (Vibroplex is still in business,
still selling its continuous-operation telegraph keys, which ditt as
long as you hold the paddle to the right.)


Indeed, the Vibroplex key is called a "bug". I suspect this has
something to do with its appearance more than anything else, though (it
kinda sorta looks like, er, a bug).

        - Dan C.




             reply	other threads:[~2021-06-16  7:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-16  8:16 Jason Stevens [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2021-06-15 22:16 Steffen Nurpmeso
2021-06-15 22:54 ` John Cowan
2021-06-15 23:44   ` Dan Cross
2021-06-16  3:48     ` Rob Pike
2021-06-16  4:13       ` Bakul Shah
2021-06-16 21:57         ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2021-06-18 20:19           ` John Cowan
2021-06-18 21:00             ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2021-06-18 22:59               ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2021-06-19 13:34               ` Harald Arnesen
2021-06-19 13:39                 ` Niklas Karlsson

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