From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [IPv6:2600:3c01:e000:146::1]) by inbox.vuxu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56C872124D for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2024 21:45:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E520943E1B; Fri, 28 Jun 2024 05:45:11 +1000 (AEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tuhs.org; s=dkim; t=1719517512; h=from:from:reply-to:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-owner:list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=e/zwmGooA4ftWCuR/2CQnG1w5aZGUZ1gRMZXza6U5V4=; b=bPdtutZXb/TVBzJDvfUc0UjRvbSNoqsEB6Isz6xJMALjbPIHOg02x65i8G4sqFlqCdHkm7 yoYtFxM7pYPlO96Jck9l+UEcrdXxsqay/LRDJBv+cCdyB+JJ+Z2fjBsrt5Bvfkng5kkTC8 hPQffa/sQjxeSH5LLc0vIHrSTjM0A/k= Received: from mail-40138.protonmail.ch (mail-40138.protonmail.ch [185.70.40.138]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6212143DB5 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2024 05:45:02 +1000 (AEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail3; t=1719517500; x=1719776700; bh=e/zwmGooA4ftWCuR/2CQnG1w5aZGUZ1gRMZXza6U5V4=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID: Message-ID:BIMI-Selector; b=mlPDkejxos8D5UHTWtlbvsfz1yR3uPDMVtKjiYR+ecxBvbqCu35zQ9kvCbEmRImIk I0yCYuuyvNnjnsaSF5ol+FDBi5BWG8Uu2uKx5vrLHEN+8wILziYYE57qOIsql8DDAe FmXdk530I4OdXryzkMfQl/aHof4TJ4LmrK3z5z/5nFMNj+IBO8Z68NolV56uqDd23Z BJOe1bnBqaRCJrM21FIKeXaY9gFNGLgxrPhfxmNU1gGbVIk6jZs9YhCKrKNBbcQHs6 wiIL+YwXAshZXdbjHUsnMmAbEP6hvwjkEZB9LaAgsKrr7ycGqL0eLshK+aMBjBGwsj lJWF7tDoBuqkQ== Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2024 19:44:54 +0000 To: tuhs@tuhs.org Message-ID: <0XwyFvb2gqLhKOmCJZ7hxF03HLJVx2BT_Q7nC-tfV7SLHaKVq8Tf3SDwiz1I9mOPiv8I2JNhHzZB0BGhPeRncM5uY3TJ0S_ZxkkxhQh5mkE=@protonmail.com> In-Reply-To: References: Feedback-ID: 35591162:user:proton X-Pm-Message-ID: a8fe39cd5bdae1ae3bb32e2c4c8749dceea41036 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID-Hash: LMUGUFHKIFJITNSTXL7ZDFLZMLTCFUUO X-Message-ID-Hash: LMUGUFHKIFJITNSTXL7ZDFLZMLTCFUUO X-MailFrom: segaloco@protonmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: another OSX 100% less Unix List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: From: segaloco via TUHS Reply-To: segaloco On Thursday, June 27th, 2024 at 12:08 PM, Stuff Received wrote: > On 2024-06-26 23:29, ron minnich wrote (in part): > [...] >=20 > > what's in it? > > ronsexcllentmbp:t rminnich$ cpio -ivt < ../t.cpio > > -rw-r--r-- 1 rminnich wheel 0 Jun 26 20:21 a > > -rw-r--r-- 2 rminnich wheel 0 Jun 26 20:21 b > > -rw-r--r-- 2 rminnich wheel 0 Jun 26 20:21 c link to b > >=20 > > "c link to b"? wtf? Who thought that was a good idea? because ... > > ronsexcllentmbp:t rminnich$ touch 'c link to b' >=20 > [...] >=20 > > Somebody needs to get the osx folks a unix manual set :-) >=20 >=20 > Interestingly, the man page (macos 11.3.1) for cpio contains the followin= g: >=20 > STANDARDS > There is no current POSIX standard for the cpio command; it > appeared in ISO/IEC 9945-1:1996 > (`POSIX.1'') but was dropped from IEEE Std 1003.1-2001 (`POSIX.1''). >=20 > The cpio, ustar, and pax interchange file formats are defined by > IEEE Std 1003.1-2001 (``POSIX.1'') > for the pax command. >=20 > S. Leopard, the first UNIX-certified OS X, was certified to UNIX 03, which der= ives from 1003.1-2001, so POSIX cpio(1) it seems was never a factor. - Matt G.