From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 0a503bfe for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2019 19:47:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 199179B90E; Fri, 15 Feb 2019 05:47:51 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 981C29B8FA; Fri, 15 Feb 2019 05:47:23 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=loomcom.com header.i=@loomcom.com header.b="hv99OUlb"; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=messagingengine.com header.i=@messagingengine.com header.b="Otb4Fl4+"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 97ADF9B8FA; Fri, 15 Feb 2019 05:47:21 +1000 (AEST) Received: from out2-smtp.messagingengine.com (out2-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BEDBA9B8F9 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2019 05:47:20 +1000 (AEST) Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.internal [10.202.2.43]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCDD521D7E for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2019 14:47:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from imap1 ([10.202.2.51]) by compute3.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 14 Feb 2019 14:47:19 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=loomcom.com; h= message-id:in-reply-to:references:date:from:to:subject :content-type; s=fm2; bh=68jRpXRoUraL8kr5CSSwDkZAguEiaxILXR77vPn 95N4=; b=hv99OUlbpBF1ylo94m34YCbYabq97irr1BV7PX8/mAKvRMTXrJHxQ4S 587Q59hkLmzDNZsnkipvfBet9iVGzKDCw/dGnwze9H1K1qG7ANFERmwY4UWgrV4f qV0CAbzl+xlXUEL9pBGwabGkiVM0ocCaCAJz3e3f1k/+aD0AHFBoX6ePAj6sdS4b aeo5qaa8Wyovadi2nq02ktYho7Joq15p+usAe7VHtnsiInMf2h741WV1hwQ/U9R7 4A/QTXxeBz1yoHpCSfENRzsXoyKDaeu5WHwys42eCd09bVbnMF3Rikeg8KiNrnkF mgbQRmzUx1rfwMYr62MqzLC0PNZyqVw== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:references:subject:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy :x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm2; bh=68jRpXRoUraL8kr5C SSwDkZAguEiaxILXR77vPn95N4=; b=Otb4Fl4+SK1U7Tvpdp5If86LlNarVExiv vDQyFRfnz3YoaccHFtAHBxkhZvJst0beeUwkdriAqP854aDVg84wYkgm1Tsgd+kr RyPXy4yvufnGsEzgKXs2wilVm16mqCUo8BYMEafwzMcSknJ9uGHSZXYfdWaH1vqY +qDWj9QwE56EfU6x8RBXwtBa2ROem2QmMMrNCx5lQJMwNRbpV+9pcyCyO10n4plA e4N72o6NbYYZkgTaZfnzvuaOwdSrBcBRMLq4DSvex7NYBRgAC9tRERTkw3wu4Zjp gw3YyXceMV9TIBo7Em3hGQ54gIXN1nNmQoxVYloaq/qNqUp2XH15A== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedtledruddthedgudeftdcutefuodetggdotefrod ftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpqfhuthenuceurghilhhouhhtmecu fedttdenucenucfjughrpefofgfkjghffffhvffutgesthdtredtreertdenucfhrhhomh epfdfuvghthhcuofhorhgrsghithhofdcuoeifvggssehlohhomhgtohhmrdgtohhmqeen ucffohhmrghinhepnhhprhdrohhrghenucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomhepfigvsg eslhhoohhmtghomhdrtghomhenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedt X-ME-Proxy: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 501) id 18A35D43B7; Thu, 14 Feb 2019 14:47:19 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface User-Agent: Cyrus-JMAP/3.1.5-832-gba113d7-fmstable-20190201v1 X-Me-Personality: 57616121 Message-Id: <0d7f24f7-98c2-4fb0-973b-b7cfbe91133c@www.fastmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20190214192940.ED58418C0AB@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> References: <20190214192940.ED58418C0AB@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2019 14:47:18 -0500 From: "Seth Morabito" To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [TUHS] Women in computing X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On Thu, Feb 14, 2019, at 11:30 AM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > > From: Deborah Scherrer > > > In the early days of Usenix, I used to keep track of the women. > > Initially, about 30% of the organization was female. That dropped every > > year. > > Interesting. Any ideas/thoughts on what was going on, what caused that? I have seen some interesting stories about this phenomenon. There was a piece on NPR's "Planet Money" in 2014 that offers one possible explanation that home computers in the 1980s were more commonly bought for boys than for girls, and that this eventually created an experience gap. Prior to the home computer revolution, they reason, no experience with computers was assumed when pursuing math and computer science in college, but afterward, experience with home computers was assumed, and boys had more of it than girls. https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2014/10/21/357629765/when-women-stopped-coding > Noel -Seth -- Seth Morabito Poulsbo, WA web@loomcom.com