From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 2ce6b372 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 16:11:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id CF1F0A1CDE; Fri, 31 Aug 2018 02:11:49 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30D6BA1A21; Fri, 31 Aug 2018 02:11:27 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b=AMPvCJFq; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id DEE4DA1A21; Fri, 31 Aug 2018 02:11:23 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-qt0-f180.google.com (mail-qt0-f180.google.com [209.85.216.180]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6AD38A1A1F for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2018 02:11:23 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-qt0-f180.google.com with SMTP id o15-v6so10765629qtk.6 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 09:11:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=date:from:to:cc:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:user-agent; bh=SJdSBYBYAZcZejo0S2rdtXSg9KzhQC+FFvIJ77jHPok=; b=AMPvCJFqBSAXdOGPZSoBYO/zGtWwhqnjAmZKAMguenulug94k6nLCPjv5KGuIqh3Pk JuPTg1f22r18hyApAAFIoz7q43lG1/YuQK9Ra50L61lKOXg1TknHIIPXDhOteEtI6/ii qW+8UUcyOmCySVTHRBLJeNo0txMg+Cqk/U1lr0br6EQizR07Kqxw9ebEGw85XFNJ8V9B ocUi4iTc2T5EO4mOjosh3UgAkOrswXVMtV7kuywcvPqP36cyRQgOEMcipCCGhAMAGJRS 5i0tfkpGdl8wrU6Gi5V89/O0HwlmDn7HPbeNxUu1RCSliRrzwKUMdjA7b7vBPN6u7iib ZS3g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:cc:message-id:in-reply-to :references:subject:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :user-agent; bh=SJdSBYBYAZcZejo0S2rdtXSg9KzhQC+FFvIJ77jHPok=; b=KwS+jYZtkUjLVqjv1/wCBP5/dhCRVte8ayPzq0aVQnBXZAfjaOTF8LSCQ2DYVkrBkh ZMry4OFMYj4gU1LXAazEorkcY8CtN+5p0vkzSNb/y3tqZBM7AOzasLNSWOXoeGF/LZg2 QJfKfXldV/BVlyqBwAQtcKe6gF4SBsaa007RfCkGMPk5lXXHA+JHIg4//4tOMbP1lWfW d0YdPva1hz5DBKruFnqPW+sDUjGuWkd/6DyjQa+ci/DxOIj88wrStc5AbQPJ7WRuVQMs I7qFMDUfr3XDOuZiBgjptaORHhn6QCNz9VuXJN3FlyTkEVuZVuTQsJGwum9sAJl9twRV dSxw== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51CiJZlPRDYop7BPB7dtmxj80xn03QwHTp5MA5iiJ1MnsinlvGY9 WYSYRAhO2t4tsZ28LaTz5a9mWtwCkm0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0VdaD5g3Rkk6DcZJzH1SaSVp8PqXxzpxLbwGvvlKwcYHJj7Vtg/sPQsFAjXhi6Emm+R1acnDjLw== X-Received: by 2002:ac8:3ac1:: with SMTP id x59-v6mr12656478qte.8.1535645482285; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 09:11:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.130.166] (pool-173-63-250-229.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net. [173.63.250.229]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id l132-v6sm4060728qke.33.2018.08.30.09.11.21 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Thu, 30 Aug 2018 09:11:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2018 12:11:19 -0400 From: William Pechter To: Clem Cole ,Warner Losh Message-ID: <0f8a883d-fd7d-4d39-bca9-b33f16195e00.maildroid@localhost> In-Reply-To: References: <20180828003057.GA317@mcvoy.com> <201808280601.w7S61oLM030628@freefriends.org> <20180829032310.GF19128@thunk.org> <20180829043639.GA6691@minnie.tuhs.org> <051a01d44051$7d7909c0$786b1d40$@ronnatalie.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: MailDroid/4.92 (Android 7.1.2) User-Agent: MailDroid/4.92 (Android 7.1.2) Subject: Re: [TUHS] Cryptic Unix Commands X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" Early plug and play. Would have worked better if they trained the PC techs in how the stuff worked. Bill Old ex-tech turned sysadmin -----Original Message----- From: Warner Losh To: Clem Cole Cc: William Pechter , The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Sent: Thu, 30 Aug 2018 11:22 Subject: Re: [TUHS] Cryptic Unix Commands On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 9:03 AM Clem Cole wrote: > On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 10:31 AM William Pechter > wrote: > >> Screw IBM for the in cable drive select lines on diskette >> > You of course realized that was because of field service issues of > course. Setting all floppies (and later ST-506 disks) on the PC and using > a twist in the cable meant they did not have to ask FS folks to set the > jumpers properly. > Ah yes, the original zeroconfig :) Warner