From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 1224 invoked from network); 7 Jun 2020 11:26:53 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 7 Jun 2020 11:26:53 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 3D1049CA86; Sun, 7 Jun 2020 21:26:47 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 899F6944A8; Sun, 7 Jun 2020 21:26:14 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=e-bbes.com header.i=@e-bbes.com header.b="c4FCapyn"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 28728944A8; Sun, 7 Jun 2020 21:26:12 +1000 (AEST) X-Greylist: delayed 1307 seconds by postgrey-1.36 at minnie.tuhs.org; Sun, 07 Jun 2020 21:26:11 AEST Received: from gateway8.unifiedlayer.com (gateway8.unifiedlayer.com [67.222.47.45]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A10FE93D56 for ; Sun, 7 Jun 2020 21:26:11 +1000 (AEST) Received: from cm3.websitewelcome.com (unknown [108.167.139.23]) by gateway8.unifiedlayer.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B6512009E9EF for ; Sun, 7 Jun 2020 06:04:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from shared83.accountservergroup.com ([162.215.248.81]) by cmsmtp with ESMTP id ht6FjZn9iKgzSht6FjD9q8; Sun, 07 Jun 2020 06:04:24 -0500 X-Authority-Reason: nr=8 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=e-bbes.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version :Date:Message-ID:From:References:Cc:To:Subject:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=mkfJ0rJz+pyFDurL2XUpwPMTxKzqnbJZul+zFYxlssM=; b=c4FCapyn8YdKr0Wl7NqV82mZAT JzEJYkNunx67fyO73LKT/p628p4vIVepHhP0+MgJxPR6NXfRY4Coidwqg7sDoVTB31ZA1WLEbg2ft qBKI72ej8xG6OV7itaRrCcf6Bz0puxl1R5LPFApHZrbiRHuDVFa/zMy0nJjBLSDKe8UiM33O/FA+N NjC7as2QKj2uXzBj1mlsPp0RrScGDdauy0Xfp0ADWtRf6n3dHyejVrESFqs4p88VCMpXxN7lbq1On vVqTDJmxUAfj3/6xKJGfp2SwgojxNCYP8I7Q7NTqMfoZmIC/FcFLUwQSNTU64WxDPN02m5LQ2QGKS z7W0LExw==; Received: from rrcs-108-176-122-118.nys.biz.rr.com ([108.176.122.118]:58157 helo=[192.168.1.133]) by shared83.accountservergroup.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.91) (envelope-from ) id 1jht6F-003yCV-Ab; Sun, 07 Jun 2020 06:04:23 -0500 To: Ed Carp , Ronald Natalie References: <8a2e9b1b-8890-a783-5b53-c8480c070f2e@telegraphics.com.au> From: emanuel stiebler Autocrypt: addr=emu@e-bbes.com; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= mQENBFpTeLYBCACiDn7rcoiXqsYCDe0doFajiIdEJI9/gs/R3OLibPa1j28okxkntmzhopnU 4AgR7CSLmPRv+llT5bTANGcJxxP+3vkKWqVgPvJLEFPltLgAm8Twgfx7ivpjIPOV7UmuB4q1 uG6MDbqFQZn1JX3UJKOkgr26j5/FEK75CXbzt3rzJ2nK+V9hZA8YsTF21G6Ly7BTD9C1r5FL wTX2RADfWESSEL4UoGd3M/t4TdFzngQ7+fumpwRGCESub6EVzPwadm2PHmB24ApRw3Lq4uwW TCcGLKLKC5Wnhkz5LC4+3aWDRIcYlxFVui1zobHBCLmz4OMesw4yVBascFjON3IVJbXtABEB AAG0IWVtYW51ZWwgc3RpZWJsZXIgPGVtdUBlLWJiZXMuY29tPokBTgQTAQgAOBYhBJpGqwt+ OlUSX5ehkeYX7RTQ+u9UBQJaU3i2AhsDBQsJCAcCBhUICQoLAgQWAgMBAh4BAheAAAoJEOYX 7RTQ+u9USPIH/ishDPPuEaJ4dKxsCgQ8CI9/gCW0ei1HCTMkcQx1rIM8NQ9LRwhQuF7N8KUp KuOfu488DEkURkYjnb0gjRVhDhVpU01/k2/vj89CDisTOaNFS5C2EDZA9sWMBJLBr9ecfX2C rcFktso/ZwkWzzFj6hJsr5wEcNEf4t3F8wjS/1F2FBCrBWoDWJNP3YCfZyeSYfW0uoRKGI6B uQRgxMxCQffJ8LPmFLzcmwKs/tCt0snQw23Z5xXcQa6unhf+nUNbTsCL8DgZxmKHyGlyw7ck zdGTH4hx/eI3MAOEgPgdLWZSGdSeuG41LzlIIBOhVdMqUFyfH4kfKctUhrbHd5Qadxa5AQ0E WlN4tgEIANOK8EEV0W0ytmSAoHKH6V6HjuM/p0tBQC33LVOPxBz+hk58yWKrLvjAewFOiy1q C3r31VoOXCVKmLWiXc4afWdOnC9coMdthTEjjTmnvjlL6yTL7XNuHPYewt6CyODCUlOebun1 CKZErOi7pkL9FqGX7bFsSW7c3NcBcgP/bDSJI4bIozLSlu0WWYVDY9CSshrn2bV3q4MnoMXj SbT7njkabZKpqoc36NyHPGwvn5X7J2wAyaPy888H5Ctph447GJKCDvbPxOl4PdgmsZ49wckr F4Y4jPeR/DS3xJGmE/AOqmei7mQX5U2AZU210gEW1NVWaBVk4+vaPQ1ovZ2G3TsAEQEAAYkB NgQYAQgAIBYhBJpGqwt+OlUSX5ehkeYX7RTQ+u9UBQJaU3i2AhsMAAoJEOYX7RTQ+u9Uf7II AJX/louczhFc4hZyDOBM7hLcHUSL1hD+3sD9zJIxro4DaU6WuD4pZJPg+nr4pwBah+D/AxzB 18t7hf2GPwW3bamJzVZSf6+JNmtJneEgFJyER/KH3aRZ6y8H+OL2uHUiuD6WXZdUH5cANdpJ BJQhzWxtz7LrZipHiCt2Y7mfAnWkDCCu84l39g9ANhd3rts76E1FM8ITQaKte09gZ57Ql7Qr 0M4Rvkri3Rubbb9R1/uvcliH59y0G0cw/MQs7x/Ys+UsDFpjtGTom9UWhNv2H4xzUbmo9A97 QeLRCOMuE/b6aSSdkDVeqyF9XXBWTKT5W9YMKflVz5xgHmTIr2jiBUg= Message-ID: <0fec52c3-0f5d-7e20-6247-8ffe1de40ebc@e-bbes.com> Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2020 07:04:23 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - shared83.accountservergroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - tuhs.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - e-bbes.com X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 108.176.122.118 X-Source-L: No X-Exim-ID: 1jht6F-003yCV-Ab X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: rrcs-108-176-122-118.nys.biz.rr.com ([192.168.1.133]) [108.176.122.118]:58157 X-Source-Auth: emu@e-bbes.com X-Email-Count: 3 X-Source-Cap: ZW11YmVzO2VtdWJlcztzaGFyZWQ4My5hY2NvdW50c2VydmVyZ3JvdXAuY29t X-Local-Domain: yes Subject: Re: [TUHS] History of popularity of C X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On 2020-06-06 16:49, Ed Carp wrote: > C was written when the programmer had to be more rigorous instead of > just letting things slide and having the language do their thinking > for them. I remember being laughed at for using static arrays instead > of malloc() and friends, until people found out that safety-critical > systems were written the same way. Still avoiding malloc and friends in safety critical systems, for a good reason ...