* [pups] Interesting PDP/Xenix History
@ 2002-04-03 9:14 Fred N. van Kempen
2002-04-03 9:45 ` quapla
2002-04-03 16:25 ` [pups] Interesting PDP/Xenix History Michael Davidson
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From: Fred N. van Kempen @ 2002-04-03 9:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
Paul,
> Bleh, sorry for the blank post... notes went schitzo....
*smile*
> If MS can release WinCE source, then they would probably do
> the same for XENIX.... both PDP/11 and the x86 version perhaps...
> Its not like we want the source... just a tape image would do me :)
> Perhaps there is someone in MS who knows of XENIX's existance and
> can help.... I'll have a word with a friend of mine who works
> there :)
Yeah, I agree. I personally think MS would release Xenix, as it no
longer has any commercial value whatsoever to them. The hardest part
might be finding people within who know about it, and who can point
us in the right (legalese) direction. Once MS signs off on it, the
people at SC(O)aldera won't have a problem with releasing the tapes.
Cheers,
Fred
InterNetworking en Network Security Consultant
MicroWalt Corporation (Netherlands), Korte Heul 95, 1403 ND BUSSUM
Phone +31 (35) 6980059 FAX +31 (35) 6980215 http://WWW.MicroWalt.NL/
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* [pups] Interesting PDP/Xenix History
2002-04-03 9:14 [pups] Interesting PDP/Xenix History Fred N. van Kempen
@ 2002-04-03 9:45 ` quapla
2002-04-03 22:12 ` [pups] UNIX/RT Lars Buitinck
2002-04-03 16:25 ` [pups] Interesting PDP/Xenix History Michael Davidson
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From: quapla @ 2002-04-03 9:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
Ummmm, they can't. Windows XP most likely uses pieces of Xenix to get
it stable. And you know that they will not release sources of the
windoze O.S-es :=)
Ed
> Paul,
>
>> Bleh, sorry for the blank post... notes went schitzo....
> *smile*
>
>> If MS can release WinCE source, then they would probably do
>> the same for XENIX.... both PDP/11 and the x86 version perhaps... Its
>> not like we want the source... just a tape image would do me :)
>> Perhaps there is someone in MS who knows of XENIX's existance and can
>> help.... I'll have a word with a friend of mine who works
>> there :)
> Yeah, I agree. I personally think MS would release Xenix, as it no
> longer has any commercial value whatsoever to them. The hardest part
> might be finding people within who know about it, and who can point us
> in the right (legalese) direction. Once MS signs off on it, the people
> at SC(O)aldera won't have a problem with releasing the tapes.
>
> Cheers,
> Fred
>
>
> InterNetworking en Network Security Consultant
> MicroWalt Corporation (Netherlands), Korte Heul 95, 1403 ND BUSSUM
> Phone +31 (35) 6980059 FAX +31 (35) 6980215 http://WWW.MicroWalt.NL/
>
> Dit bericht en eventuele bijlagen is uitsluitend bestemd voor de
> geadresseerde. Openbaarmaking, vermenigvuldiging, verspreiding aan
> derden is niet toegestaan. Er wordt geen verantwoordelijkheid
> genomen voor de juiste en volledige overbrenging van de inhoud
> van dit bericht, noch voor de tijdige ontvangst ervan.
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* [pups] Interesting PDP/Xenix History
2002-04-03 9:14 [pups] Interesting PDP/Xenix History Fred N. van Kempen
2002-04-03 9:45 ` quapla
@ 2002-04-03 16:25 ` Michael Davidson
1 sibling, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Michael Davidson @ 2002-04-03 16:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
Fred N. van Kempen wrote:
>Paul,
>
>>If MS can release WinCE source, then they would probably do
>>the same for XENIX.... both PDP/11 and the x86 version perhaps...
>>Its not like we want the source... just a tape image would do me :)
>>Perhaps there is someone in MS who knows of XENIX's existance and
>>can help.... I'll have a word with a friend of mine who works
>>there :)
>>
>Yeah, I agree. I personally think MS would release Xenix, as it no
>longer has any commercial value whatsoever to them. The hardest part
>might be finding people within who know about it, and who can point
>us in the right (legalese) direction. Once MS signs off on it, the
>people at SC(O)aldera won't have a problem with releasing the tapes.
>
Microsoft probably wouldn't have any problem releasing the PDP-11 version
of XENIX - it is, after all, really just a minor V7 variant with very
little Microsoft
code in it.
The two problems you will have are:
- finding anyone at Microsoft who knows what PDP-11 XENIX is, and
understands that
it has no commercial value.
- finding either a binary or source distribution of it
XENIX for the x86 family hasn't quite reached the status of "no
commercial value" yet.
Caldera still ships XENIX compatibility with the OpenServer operating
system,
customers still use it, and we still pay Microsoft royalties on every
copy of OpenServer
that we ship for that very reason.
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* [pups] UNIX/RT
2002-04-03 9:45 ` quapla
@ 2002-04-03 22:12 ` Lars Buitinck
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From: Lars Buitinck @ 2002-04-03 22:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
I think I've found the influence of UNIX/RT on the world at large, and
the Open Sores^V^V^V^Vource community in particular.
from OpenBSD 3.0 /etc/magic:
0 leshort 0401 PDP-11 UNIX/RT ldp
(can anyone tell me what ldp means?)
ps.
Thus spake quapla at xs4all.nl:
> Ummmm, they can't. Windows XP most likely uses pieces of Xenix to get
> it stable. And you know that they will not release sources of the
> windoze O.S-es :=)
stable?
are we talking about the same OS?
--
If I travelled to the end of the rainbow
As Dame Fortune did intend
Murphy would be there to tell me
The pot is at the other end
Lars
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