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It's not going "full" screen, even with TERM=vt100 or TERM=ansi set > (not that I was surprised, but it'd be nice)... > > What does /etc/termcap look like? > All right, I'm getting warmer. I tried changing ttys to various speeds, and stty 9600, per Clem, Then, I looked at termcap, and saw that there weren't any ansi or vt100 entries (duh), so then I tryed vt50 and vt52 modes: vt50: HJ   ~   ~   ~   AAAA       :q vt52: Y7 HJY- ~         ~         ~         ~         ~         ~         ~         ~         ~         ~Y, Y7 :q Here are the termcap entries. I compared with termcap in svr2, which has vt50,vt52, and vt100: v7: vh|vt50h|dec vt50h:\ :bs:cd=\EJ:ce=\EK:cl=\EH\EJ:cm=\EY%+ %+ :co#80:li#12:nd=\EC:\ :pt:sr=\EI:up=\EA: v2|vt52|dec vt52:\ :bs:cd=\EJ:ce=\EK:cl=\EH\EJ:cm=\EY%+ %+ :co#80:li#24:nd=\EC:\ :pt:sr=\EI:up=\EA: svr2: d0|vt100|vt100-am|vt100|dec vt100:\         :cr=^M:do=^J:nl=^J:bl=^G:co#80:li#24:cl=50\E[;H\E[2J:\         :le=^H:bs:am:cm=5\E[%i%d;%dH:nd=2\E[C:up=2\E[A:\ :ce=3\E[K:cd=50\E[J:so=2\E[7m:se=2\E[m:us=2\E[4m:ue=2\E[m:\         :md=2\E[1m:mr=2\E[7m:mb=2\E[5m:me=2\E[m:is=\E[1;24r\E[24;1H:\ :rs=\E>\E[?3l\E[?4l\E[?5l\E[?7h\E[?8h:ks=\E[?1h\E=:ke=\E[?1l\E>:\ :rf=/usr/lib/tabset/vt100:ku=\EOA:kd=\EOB:kr=\EOC:kl=\EOD:kb=^H:\ :ho=\E[H:k1=\EOP:k2=\EOQ:k3=\EOR:k4=\EOS:ta=^I:pt:sr=5\EM:vt#3:xn:\         :sc=\E7:rc=\E8:cs=\E[%i%d;%dr: d1|vt100|vt100-nam|vt100 w/no am:\         :am@:xn@:tc=vt100-am: d2|gt42|dec gt42:\         :cr=^M:do=^J:bl=^G:\         :le=^H:bs:co#72:ns:li#40:os: d3|vt132|vt132:\ :al=99\E[L:dl=99\E[M:ip=7:dc=7\E[P:ei=\E[4l:im=\E[4h:xn:dN#30:tc=vt100: d4|gt40|dec gt40:\         :cr=^M:do=^J:bl=^G:\         :le=^H:bs:co#72:ns:li#30:os: d5|vt50|dec vt50:\         :cr=^M:do=^J:nl=^J:bl=^G:\ :le=^H:bs:cd=\EJ:ce=\EK:cl=\EH\EJ:co#80:li#12:nd=\EC:ta=^I:pt:up=\EA: Here's the list of available terminals culled from /etc/termcap from v7 and the buggy/untested list included in termcap: dumb, lsi adm3/adm3a/adm31/adm3a, concept100/concept100rv, hp2645, dm1520/dm2500/dm3025/3025a, dec gt40/gt42/vt50/vt50h/vt52, decwriter I/decwriter II, diablo 300s, hazeltine 1500/1510/2000, Infoton 100/400/KAS, fox 1100, owl 1200, tektronix 4014, teleray 1061, terminet 1200/300, tty33/37/43, ti silent 700/745, xitex sct-100, beehiveIIIm, tvi912/tvi920, ttyWilliams, infoton|400|infoton 400 buggy -dm2500 Untested - gt40, gt42, vt50, vt50h, dw1, dtc300s, gsi, infoton, fox, tk4014, t1061, 1200, 300, tty33, tty37, tty43 I don't suppose any of these look like reasonable approximations of something I have available in Terminal/xterm? 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On 1/4/22 7:35 PM, Warner Losh wrote:

1. It's not going "full" screen, even with TERM=vt100 or TERM=ansi set (not that I was surprised, but it'd be nice)...

What does /etc/termcap look like?
 

All right, I'm getting warmer. I tried changing ttys to various speeds, and stty 9600, per Clem, Then, I looked at termcap, and saw that there weren't any ansi or vt100 entries (duh), so then I tryed vt50 and vt52 modes:

vt50:
HJ






  ~
  ~
  ~
  AAAA




      :q
vt52:
Y7 HJY- ~
        ~
        ~
        ~
        ~
        ~
        ~
        ~
        ~
        ~Y, Y7 :q

Here are the termcap entries. I compared with termcap in svr2, which has vt50,vt52, and vt100:

v7:
vh|vt50h|dec vt50h:\
        :bs:cd=\EJ:ce=\EK:cl=\EH\EJ:cm=\EY%+ %+ :co#80:li#12:nd=\EC:\
        :pt:sr=\EI:up=\EA:
v2|vt52|dec vt52:\
        :bs:cd=\EJ:ce=\EK:cl=\EH\EJ:cm=\EY%+ %+ :co#80:li#24:nd=\EC:\
        :pt:sr=\EI:up=\EA:
svr2:
d0|vt100|vt100-am|vt100|dec vt100:\
        :cr=^M:do=^J:nl=^J:bl=^G:co#80:li#24:cl=50\E[;H\E[2J:\
        :le=^H:bs:am:cm=5\E[%i%d;%dH:nd=2\E[C:up=2\E[A:\
        :ce=3\E[K:cd=50\E[J:so=2\E[7m:se=2\E[m:us=2\E[4m:ue=2\E[m:\
        :md=2\E[1m:mr=2\E[7m:mb=2\E[5m:me=2\E[m:is=\E[1;24r\E[24;1H:\
        :rs=\E>\E[?3l\E[?4l\E[?5l\E[?7h\E[?8h:ks=\E[?1h\E=:ke=\E[?1l\E>:\
        :rf=/usr/lib/tabset/vt100:ku=\EOA:kd=\EOB:kr=\EOC:kl=\EOD:kb=^H:\
        :ho=\E[H:k1=\EOP:k2=\EOQ:k3=\EOR:k4=\EOS:ta=^I:pt:sr=5\EM:vt#3:xn:\
        :sc=\E7:rc=\E8:cs=\E[%i%d;%dr:
d1|vt100|vt100-nam|vt100 w/no am:\
        :am@:xn@:tc=vt100-am:
d2|gt42|dec gt42:\
        :cr=^M:do=^J:bl=^G:\
        :le=^H:bs:co#72:ns:li#40:os:
d3|vt132|vt132:\
        :al=99\E[L:dl=99\E[M:ip=7:dc=7\E[P:ei=\E[4l:im=\E[4h:xn:dN#30:tc=vt100:
d4|gt40|dec gt40:\
        :cr=^M:do=^J:bl=^G:\
        :le=^H:bs:co#72:ns:li#30:os:
d5|vt50|dec vt50:\
        :cr=^M:do=^J:nl=^J:bl=^G:\
        :le=^H:bs:cd=\EJ:ce=\EK:cl=\EH\EJ:co#80:li#12:nd=\EC:ta=^I:pt:up=\EA:
Here's the list of available terminals culled from /etc/termcap from v7 and the buggy/untested list included in termcap:
dumb, lsi adm3/adm3a/adm31/adm3a, concept100/concept100rv, hp2645, dm1520/dm2500/dm3025/3025a, dec gt40/gt42/vt50/vt50h/vt52, decwriter I/decwriter II, diablo 300s, hazeltine 1500/1510/2000, Infoton 100/400/KAS, fox 1100, owl 1200, tektronix 4014, teleray 1061, terminet 1200/300, tty33/37/43, ti silent 700/745, xitex sct-100, beehiveIIIm, tvi912/tvi920, ttyWilliams, infoton|400|infoton 400

buggy -dm2500  
Untested - gt40, gt42, vt50, vt50h, dw1, dtc300s, gsi, infoton, fox, tk4014, t1061, 1200, 300, tty33, tty37, tty43

I don't suppose any of these look like reasonable approximations of something I have available in Terminal/xterm?

Will
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