From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [50.116.15.146]) by inbox.vuxu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B391427612 for ; Mon, 20 May 2024 18:38:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9EBC43B45; Tue, 21 May 2024 02:38:14 +1000 (AEST) Received: from omta036.useast.a.cloudfilter.net (omta036.useast.a.cloudfilter.net [44.202.169.35]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 03E2843B44 for ; Tue, 21 May 2024 02:38:09 +1000 (AEST) Received: from eig-obgw-6010a.ext.cloudfilter.net ([10.0.30.248]) by cmsmtp with ESMTPS id 92fQsLRqKAidI961ZsiVf2; Mon, 20 May 2024 16:38:09 +0000 Received: from shared056.arvixe.com ([129.121.4.205]) by cmsmtp with ESMTPS id 961Xs1FFBE7O2961Ys1ZZt; Mon, 20 May 2024 16:38:08 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.4 cv=JLE9sdKb c=1 sm=1 tr=0 ts=664b7c70 a=ZXEiJ4ldN1eQiIvORaK8zw==:117 a=ZXEiJ4ldN1eQiIvORaK8zw==:17 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=TpHVaj0NuXgA:10 a=MwmYBGSu7XQA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=9C4BpI1SQ-QxUU-5OqIA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=humeweb.com ; s=default; h=To:References:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Date: In-Reply-To:From:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID :Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To: Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe :List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=twTsk7eHfd7UrjvEtdKZu7AyhiTzGIzAas9POpXuPwQ=; b=IBpu65neHLvScr9ITP7XtIWXoQ h4PLowm2hpzfH4hrIRyHJw7mywwM/rDcYWKiEMIgBThxx2UniKd0EKYTDvXrooP2yMN4/mgDZjQ23 8JxO3tw83KrBcHFU+uOjrB6fGIl3kz1GPs1wGklY56YERzf4IVOphjsGKJ8+Cum/37cw=; Received: from ip68-4-52-162.pv.oc.cox.net ([68.4.52.162]:60855 helo=smtpclient.apple) by shared056.arvixe.com with esmtpsa (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.96.2) (envelope-from ) id 1s961X-004F80-28; Mon, 20 May 2024 11:38:07 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3774.500.171.1.1\)) From: Andrew Hume In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 20 May 2024 09:37:55 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <10EC571B-A75C-47EE-BECC-1B1800B9843C@humeweb.com> References: <20240518203319.3oAKtOSk@steffen%sdaoden.eu> To: Paul Winalski X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3774.500.171.1.1) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - shared056.arvixe.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - tuhs.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - humeweb.com X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 68.4.52.162 X-Source-L: No X-Exim-ID: 1s961X-004F80-28 X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: ip68-4-52-162.pv.oc.cox.net (smtpclient.apple) [68.4.52.162]:60855 X-Source-Auth: andrew@humeweb.com X-Email-Count: 2 X-Org: HG=asoshared_arvixe;ORG=aso; X-Source-Cap: YWh1bWU7YWh1bWU7c2hhcmVkMDU2LmFydml4ZS5jb20= X-Local-Domain: yes X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4xfP6TZbirNduP8kkJ1/b9tLltdZOmhhEweeEzmOB+fwK3nW01jceuDmFagp9RU4KtkhdgOd3ArAOVaaTWJvCMZfTsfb2RGYMt1NmjwcLGfb7OnvbfYGKw un5qL3sShfhAaXQSk+ZYK9cDsjpqYTvrII09s5mupU3C0W7CyB27gtKftlcNR0bxpwt8jJa4EABuSQ== Message-ID-Hash: EYB4JAYJSBHEKKD2XCV6NZXU6QAL4YXV X-Message-ID-Hash: EYB4JAYJSBHEKKD2XCV6NZXU6QAL4YXV X-MailFrom: andrew@humeweb.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Documentation (was On Bloat and the Idea of Small Specialized Tools) List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: > On May 20, 2024, at 8:43=E2=80=AFAM, Paul Winalski = wrote: > Sometimes in the process of doing that youd stop and think, "wait a = minute--we don't really want it doing that". Or you'd find that you = bhad difficulty articulating exactly how a particular feature behaves. = That's a red flag that you've designed the feature to be too obscure and = complex, or that there's something flat-out wrong with it. that=E2=80=99s what i used doug mcilroy for! i especially remember that = for mk(1).