From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 31959 invoked from network); 29 Mar 2022 00:41:13 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 29 Mar 2022 00:41:13 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 68E8E9D6B2; Tue, 29 Mar 2022 10:41:10 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D815A9D662; Tue, 29 Mar 2022 10:40:53 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=serissa.com header.i=@serissa.com header.b="na9JDRXh"; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=messagingengine.com header.i=@messagingengine.com header.b="bvtEN7ZI"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id DC8599D662; Tue, 29 Mar 2022 10:40:51 +1000 (AEST) X-Greylist: delayed 574 seconds by postgrey-1.36 at minnie.tuhs.org; Tue, 29 Mar 2022 10:40:50 AEST Received: from wout4-smtp.messagingengine.com (wout4-smtp.messagingengine.com [64.147.123.20]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D19BA9D661 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2022 10:40:50 +1000 (AEST) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.west.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED49132007F9; Mon, 28 Mar 2022 20:31:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 28 Mar 2022 20:31:16 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=serissa.com; h= cc:cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:date:from:from :in-reply-to:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :reply-to:sender:subject:subject:to:to; s=fm3; bh=8SoQ+wpqQSEuuU TSJbC7yMqWtrRsIs4jn2yxNaqeXIU=; b=na9JDRXhSDNquMSaTrXiKtL3fr+kxl YkuMRxVnuIExHrTnGSXLoWVvw2TlLvSj9HqPlZefvCIfPlMJ4oSP8xkYcBdIdX29 Wu7NV+SI0oJ5VUlsBHXPZUDmk5YL6l02/CBY+/LYZuLRS4Jf06A3mBn54ZzdpkSA Mq1KZ3SNUQBIeNRnRoLMfQ4xJo3vyKuPDgWnPaCtl/Zf5qxHHHvTpEmlRZo9gT9Z VHoyCx2IOWtiXPpk/G9B9RY/k8RzizyF6nxI6UCqnL3oZsk3m+vKGbV42tKL4SSW dtHmoOMPwI1zrciNg0p/Pu3v7oed1TvdP5t6uKkJMs1SyXj4mJanLOwQ== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:cc:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:date:date:from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:reply-to:sender:subject :subject:to:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender :x-sasl-enc; s=fm3; bh=8SoQ+wpqQSEuuUTSJbC7yMqWtrRsIs4jn2yxNaqeX IU=; b=bvtEN7ZIjFQVKSK9uLKD7JdnTwXSg0uNzkAA4N/R49Ua7OFTxXYW4zwJJ XoE420eHOlAr/nxDCMnzclJkSXOqG5yzeGG0zgVul+9BZ9g9sgzhIgWO9+3QP0dw VerZVUW8TnvWZjRIDO8DO19HCjdROkceUtVnnlnUKs81jAntYxIdnhs+jXxUrhcj 7UzSsq+3DbHQT+nuDfCFUlzxsUGDoyRSVRFx/XG6gQxqoqxiUPLaCTjmambUqwTY NownCmquxqIih1pG9b4hNs+mvuRjpGrAm2RAyoxKhH0PFO9kpNzz5SofYDvaTw+n ouP6hpYV5g6wy3vWzC5UApAcv0JLg== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvvddrudehkedgfeefucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucenucfjughrpegtggfuhfgjfffgkfhfvffosehtqh hmtdhhtdejnecuhfhrohhmpefnrgifrhgvnhgtvgcuufhtvgifrghrthcuoehsthgvfigr rhhtsehsvghrihhsshgrrdgtohhmqeenucggtffrrghtthgvrhhnpeeggfejffdtjeeife ehveekffffhfeuheeiieeivdejfeelleekueevvdffiefhvdenucevlhhushhtvghrufhi iigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehsthgvfigrrhhtsehsvghrihhssh grrdgtohhm X-ME-Proxy: Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Mon, 28 Mar 2022 20:31:15 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 15.0 \(3693.60.0.1.1\)) From: Lawrence Stewart In-Reply-To: <19FC5DAF-A4C7-4EE0-BF34-91B340910641@iitbombay.org> Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2022 20:31:14 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <11FBF445-4956-427E-8751-60BF5CA88116@serissa.com> References: <20220328210356.GA18426@minnie.tuhs.org> <97CCE4E5-0445-4EB0-8CAE-3C75BBF72CFE@iitbombay.org> <20220328232344.GC60301@eureka.lemis.com> <19FC5DAF-A4C7-4EE0-BF34-91B340910641@iitbombay.org> To: TUHS@tuhs.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3693.60.0.1.1) Subject: [TUHS] Old screen editors X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" At the Stanford Information Systems Lab while I was there 1976-81, we = had a series of PDP-11s. The first one I remember was an 11/34 running = V6 and later V7. It was later upgraded to, I think a /45 and finally a = /70. At first everyone used ed, then Prof. John Gill hacked it to add a = command, I think =E2=80=98%=E2=80=99 that was the equivalent of = .-10,.+10p which on our 9600 baud Hazeltine=E2=80=99s was a glimpse of = the future. At some point we got ex/vi, but before that we got the =E2=80=9CRand = Editor=E2=80=9D re, which was a perfectly functional screen editor, if you squinted a bit. Does anyone here know the place of re in the history? Later, Gill went off for a sabbatical at Yorktown Heights and came back = to complain about having to use SOS on the mainframe. He reported, however, that global search = and replace was very fast. -L Also a few years later I got Dave Conroy=E2=80=99s version of = microemacs. I complained about the key bindings and he told me to use = the =E2=80=9Cchange configuration=E2=80=9D command, or cc.