* [TUHS] Clem's Law.
@ 2022-06-27 3:58 steve jenkin
2022-06-27 4:37 ` [TUHS] " josh
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From: steve jenkin @ 2022-06-27 3:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: TUHS
I thought this comment was very good.
I went looking for “Clem’s Law” (presume Clem Cole) and struck out.
Any hints anyone can suggest or history on the comment?
steve j
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Larry McVoy wrote Fri Sep 17 10:44:25 AEST 2021
<https://minnie.tuhs.org/pipermail/tuhs/2021-September/024424.html>
Plan 9 is very cool but I am channeling my inner Clem,
Plan 9 didn't meet Clem's law.
It was never compelling enough to make the masses love it.
Linux was good enough.
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0412 786 915 (+61 412 786 915)
PO Box 38, Kippax ACT 2615, AUSTRALIA
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* [TUHS] Re: Clem's Law.
2022-06-27 3:58 [TUHS] Clem's Law steve jenkin
@ 2022-06-27 4:37 ` josh
2022-06-27 4:51 ` Warner Losh
2022-06-27 7:14 ` Steve Jenkin
0 siblings, 2 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: josh @ 2022-06-27 4:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: steve jenkin; +Cc: TUHS
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> Clem Cole <clemc@ccc.com> wrote:
> My own take on this is what I call "Cole's Law" Simple economics
> always beats sophisticated architecture.
Cole's Law is a bit of a better name than Clem's Law :P. Clem has
invoked his law on this mailing list in various contexts, check out
the archives.
Josh
On Sun, Jun 26, 2022 at 11:58 PM steve jenkin <sjenkin@canb.auug.org.au>
wrote:
> I thought this comment was very good.
>
> I went looking for “Clem’s Law” (presume Clem Cole) and struck out.
>
> Any hints anyone can suggest or history on the comment?
>
> steve j
>
> ==========
>
> Larry McVoy wrote Fri Sep 17 10:44:25 AEST 2021
> <https://minnie.tuhs.org/pipermail/tuhs/2021-September/024424.html>
>
> Plan 9 is very cool but I am channeling my inner Clem,
> Plan 9 didn't meet Clem's law.
> It was never compelling enough to make the masses love it.
> Linux was good enough.
>
> ==========
> --
> Steve Jenkin, IT Systems and Design
> 0412 786 915 (+61 412 786 915)
> PO Box 38, Kippax ACT 2615, AUSTRALIA
>
> mailto:sjenkin@canb.auug.org.au http://members.tip.net.au/~sjenkin
>
>
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* [TUHS] Re: Clem's Law.
2022-06-27 4:37 ` [TUHS] " josh
@ 2022-06-27 4:51 ` Warner Losh
2022-06-27 7:14 ` Steve Jenkin
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From: Warner Losh @ 2022-06-27 4:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: josh; +Cc: steve jenkin, TUHS
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On Sun, Jun 26, 2022, 10:39 PM josh <joshnatis0@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Clem Cole <clemc@ccc.com> wrote:
> > My own take on this is what I call "Cole's Law" Simple economics
> > always beats sophisticated architecture.
>
> Cole's Law is a bit of a better name than Clem's Law :P. Clem has
> invoked his law on this mailing list in various contexts, check out
> the archives.
>
I thought Cole's Law was thinly sliced cabbage. .
Warner
Josh
>
> On Sun, Jun 26, 2022 at 11:58 PM steve jenkin <sjenkin@canb.auug.org.au>
> wrote:
>
>> I thought this comment was very good.
>>
>> I went looking for “Clem’s Law” (presume Clem Cole) and struck out.
>>
>> Any hints anyone can suggest or history on the comment?
>>
>> steve j
>>
>> ==========
>>
>> Larry McVoy wrote Fri Sep 17 10:44:25 AEST 2021
>> <https://minnie.tuhs.org/pipermail/tuhs/2021-September/024424.html>
>>
>> Plan 9 is very cool but I am channeling my inner Clem,
>> Plan 9 didn't meet Clem's law.
>> It was never compelling enough to make the masses love it.
>> Linux was good enough.
>>
>> ==========
>> --
>> Steve Jenkin, IT Systems and Design
>> 0412 786 915 (+61 412 786 915)
>> PO Box 38, Kippax ACT 2615, AUSTRALIA
>>
>> mailto:sjenkin@canb.auug.org.au http://members.tip.net.au/~sjenkin
>>
>>
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* [TUHS] Re: Clem's Law.
2022-06-27 4:37 ` [TUHS] " josh
2022-06-27 4:51 ` Warner Losh
@ 2022-06-27 7:14 ` Steve Jenkin
1 sibling, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Steve Jenkin @ 2022-06-27 7:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: TUHS
Thanks very much for the help.
"Cole's law of economics vs. sophisticated technology”
and
"Cole's law that *Simple Economics always beats Sophisticated Architecture*”
———
Earliest ref I could find, Jan 2020
[TUHS] [TUHS -> moving to COFF] # and the Preprocessor
<https://minnie.tuhs.org/pipermail/tuhs/2020-January/019809.html>
with a thread in Dec 2020
[TUHS] Cole's Slaw
<https://minnie.tuhs.org/pipermail/tuhs/2020-December/022587.html>
——————
“Paper" by Rob Pike is actually a talk.
Cheap PC hardware got better.
Systems Software Research is Irrelevant
Rob Pike
Feb 21, 2000
<http://herpolhode.com/rob/utah2000.pdf>
——————
> On 27 Jun 2022, at 14:37, josh <joshnatis0@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Cole's Law is a bit of a better name than Clem's Law :P. Clem has
> invoked his law on this mailing list in various contexts, check out
> the archives.
>
> Josh
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