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From: norman@oclsc.org (Norman Wilson)
Subject: [TUHS] Happy birthday, core dumped
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 11:03:56 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1403103840.16031.for-standards-violators@oclsc.org> (raw)

  Interesting - what's your source?  It was also my understanding they
  used the -7 'because it was there' but that they had pitched for a
  PDP-10, which had TOPS-10.

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I think Doug's source is in the class `personal observation.'
He was there at the time; Ken and Dennis's department head, if
I've got it right.

Remember that Bell Labs had just disengaged itself from the
Multics project.  The interest in a new OS sprang partly
from the desire to have a comfortable multi-user system
now that Multics was no longer available.  That's why the
DEC operating systems of the time, which were (as I understand
it) simple single-user monitors, didn't fill the bill.

The character of the players matters too: remember that
Ken is the guy who one night sat down to write a Fortran
compiler because real systems have Fortran, and ended up
inventing B instead.

I've read that there was indeed a pitch to buy a PDP-10; that
there was some complicated plan to lower the effective cost;
and that upper management (not Doug) turned it down because
`Bell Labs doesn't do business that way.'  I think I got that
from Dennis's retrospective paper, published in the 1984
all-UNIX issue of the Bell Labs Techical Journal, a must-read
(along with the late-1970s all-UNIX issue of BSTJ) for anyone
on this list.



             reply	other threads:[~2014-06-18 15:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-18 15:03 Norman Wilson [this message]
2014-06-18 14:00 ` Larry McVoy
2014-06-18 16:58   ` Cory Smelosky
2014-06-18 15:55     ` Larry McVoy
2014-06-18 15:14 ` Dan Cross
2014-06-18 16:50 ` scj
2014-06-18 18:43   ` John Cowan
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-06-20 13:05 Douglas Comer
2014-06-19  1:49 Doug McIlroy
2014-06-18 21:21 Noel Chiappa
2014-06-18 22:55 ` John Cowan
2014-06-18 17:48 Douglas Comer
2014-06-18 22:38 ` Cory Smelosky
2014-06-18 11:06 Doug McIlroy
2014-06-18 14:43 ` iking
2014-06-18 14:48   ` Dan Cross
2014-06-18 18:21   ` A. P. Garcia
2014-06-15 18:19 Norman Wilson
2014-06-16 16:13 ` iking
2014-06-16 22:01   ` Gregg Levine
2014-06-17  1:38     ` John Cowan
2014-06-17  1:56       ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2014-06-17  3:13       ` iking
2014-06-17 12:14         ` John Cowan
2014-06-18 16:21           ` Ian King

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