From: norman@oclsc.org (Norman Wilson)
Subject: [TUHS] Happy birthday, core dumped
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 11:03:56 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1403103840.16031.for-standards-violators@oclsc.org> (raw)
Interesting - what's your source? It was also my understanding they
used the -7 'because it was there' but that they had pitched for a
PDP-10, which had TOPS-10.
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I think Doug's source is in the class `personal observation.'
He was there at the time; Ken and Dennis's department head, if
I've got it right.
Remember that Bell Labs had just disengaged itself from the
Multics project. The interest in a new OS sprang partly
from the desire to have a comfortable multi-user system
now that Multics was no longer available. That's why the
DEC operating systems of the time, which were (as I understand
it) simple single-user monitors, didn't fill the bill.
The character of the players matters too: remember that
Ken is the guy who one night sat down to write a Fortran
compiler because real systems have Fortran, and ended up
inventing B instead.
I've read that there was indeed a pitch to buy a PDP-10; that
there was some complicated plan to lower the effective cost;
and that upper management (not Doug) turned it down because
`Bell Labs doesn't do business that way.' I think I got that
from Dennis's retrospective paper, published in the 1984
all-UNIX issue of the Bell Labs Techical Journal, a must-read
(along with the late-1970s all-UNIX issue of BSTJ) for anyone
on this list.
next reply other threads:[~2014-06-18 15:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-06-18 15:03 Norman Wilson [this message]
2014-06-18 14:00 ` Larry McVoy
2014-06-18 16:58 ` Cory Smelosky
2014-06-18 15:55 ` Larry McVoy
2014-06-18 15:14 ` Dan Cross
2014-06-18 16:50 ` scj
2014-06-18 18:43 ` John Cowan
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-06-20 13:05 Douglas Comer
2014-06-19 1:49 Doug McIlroy
2014-06-18 21:21 Noel Chiappa
2014-06-18 22:55 ` John Cowan
2014-06-18 17:48 Douglas Comer
2014-06-18 22:38 ` Cory Smelosky
2014-06-18 11:06 Doug McIlroy
2014-06-18 14:43 ` iking
2014-06-18 14:48 ` Dan Cross
2014-06-18 18:21 ` A. P. Garcia
2014-06-15 18:19 Norman Wilson
2014-06-16 16:13 ` iking
2014-06-16 22:01 ` Gregg Levine
2014-06-17 1:38 ` John Cowan
2014-06-17 1:56 ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2014-06-17 3:13 ` iking
2014-06-17 12:14 ` John Cowan
2014-06-18 16:21 ` Ian King
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