From mboxrd@z Thu Jan  1 00:00:00 1970
From: wes.parish@paradise.net.nz (Wesley Parish)
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 22:28:35 +1300 (NZDT)
Subject: [TUHS] Illumos )
In-Reply-To: <20141231062219.GA21046@mcvoy.com>
References: <20141231062219.GA21046@mcvoy.com>
Message-ID: <1420018115.54a3c1c32faaa@www.paradise.net.nz>

Illumos is a branch (or fork: I'm not sure which word is most appropriate here)
of OpenSolaris: if my memory serves me right (always a bit ask) it's a
debianized OpenSolaris
http://wiki.illumos.org/display/illumos/illumos+Home

OpenIndiana is another such project
http://openindiana.org/

and I think there are some other OpenSolaris branch/fork tree available, but i
don't know anything about them. Their primary importance, from my POV, is that
they keep the POSIX space open for experimentation: a Linux monoculture's as
deadening as a MS Windows monoculture or a [choose your own poison] monoculture ...

Wesley Parish

Quoting Larry McVoy <lm at mcvoy.com>:

> Yo Jacob,
> 
> I'm ex-sun but I don't know too much about Illumos. Care to give us 
> the summary of why I might care about it?
> 
> On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 01:16:00AM -0500, Jacob Ritorto wrote:
> > Hey, thanks, Derrik.
> > I don't mess with Linux much (kind of an Illumos junkie by trade ;),
> but
> > I bet gcc would. I did out of curiosity do it with the Macintosh cc
> (Apple
> > LLVM version 5.1 (clang-503.0.40) (based on LLVM 3.4svn)) and it
> throws
> > warnings about our not type-defining functions because you're
> apparently
> > supposed to do this explicitly these days, but it dutifully goes on
> to
> > assume int and compiles our test K&R stuff mostly fine. It does
> > unfortunately balk pretty badly at the naked returns we initially
> had,
> > though. Wish it didn't because it strikes me as being beautifully
> simple..
> > 
> > thx again for the encouragement!
> > jake
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 1:02 AM, Derrik Walker v2.0
> <dwalker at doomd.net>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > On Wed, 2014-12-31 at 00:44 -0500, Jacob Ritorto wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > P.S. if anyone's bored enough, you can check out what we're up to
> at
> > > > https://github.com/srphtygr/dhb. I'm trying to get my 11yo kid to
> > > > spend a little time programming rather than just playing video
> games
> > > > when he's near a computer. He'a actually getting through this
> stuff
> > > > and is honestly interested when he understands it and sees it work
> --
> > > > and he even spotted a bug before me this afternoon! Feel free to
> > > > raise issues, pull requests, etc. if you like -- I'm putting him
> > > > through the git committing and pair programming paces, so outside
> > > > interaction would be kinda fun :)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > P.P.S. We're actually using 2.11bsd after all..
> > > >
> > > I'm curious, will gcc on a modern Linux system compile K&R c?
> > >
> > > Maybe when I get a little time, I might try to see if I can compile
> it
> > > on a modern Fedora 21 system with gcc.
> > >
> > > BTW: Great job introducing him to such a classic environment. A few
> > > years ago, my now 18 year old had expressed some interest in
> graphics
> > > programming and was in awe over an SGI O2 I had at the time, so I
> got
> > > him an Indy. He played around with a bit of programming, but
> > > unfortunately, he lost interest.
> > >
> > > - Derrik
> > >
> > >
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