From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: random832@fastmail.us (random832@fastmail.us) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2015 14:38:25 -0500 Subject: [TUHS] Less -- was Termcap vs terminfo In-Reply-To: <201501110520.t0B5KwvP018801@coolidge.cs.dartmouth.edu> References: <201501110520.t0B5KwvP018801@coolidge.cs.dartmouth.edu> Message-ID: <1421091505.3373070.212956033.39DC72E0@webmail.messagingengine.com> On Sun, Jan 11, 2015, at 00:20, Doug McIlroy wrote: > Sorry for veering away from Unix history, but this pushed one of the > hottest > of my buttons. Less is the epitome of modern Unix decadence. Besides the > maddening behavior described above, why, when all screens have a scroll > bar, > should a pager do its own scrolling? The console screen doesn't, and the one in an emulator can't be controlled by the pager. The real question is why a pager should be executed at all in an xterm. Except xterm has no ability to search in scrollback, and its buffer may not be large enough for some very large manpages.