[TUHS] earliest paint program for X

[TUHS] earliest paint program for X

[Mark Longridge]

Ok, I hope this question isn't too off-topic...

I was looking through the X10R3 source tree trying to find the
earliest paint program for X. I wasn't able to see anything that
looked like a paint program.

Xpaint might be the oldest, wikipedia says the first version appeared in 1989.

Searching for xpaint on tuhs returned no matches, but I saw that
4.3BSD-Tahoe had some old X programs but nothing listed there seemed
to be a paint program.

Maybe xgedit? It's listed as a "simple graphic editor for the X window
system", but I don't know if it really qualifies as a paint program.

Mark

[TUHS] earliest paint program for X

[Ronald Natalie]

There might have been a simpler icon editor.   My memory of the early X stuff is pretty hazy.

> On Jul 11, 2016, at 6:52 PM, Mark Longridge <cubexyz at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Ok, I hope this question isn't too off-topic...
> 
> I was looking through the X10R3 source tree trying to find the
> earliest paint program for X. I wasn't able to see anything that
> looked like a paint program.
> 
> Xpaint might be the oldest, wikipedia says the first version appeared in 1989.
> 
> Searching for xpaint on tuhs returned no matches, but I saw that
> 4.3BSD-Tahoe had some old X programs but nothing listed there seemed
> to be a paint program.
> 
> Maybe xgedit? It's listed as a "simple graphic editor for the X window
> system", but I don't know if it really qualifies as a paint program.
> 
> Mark

[TUHS] earliest paint program for X

[Larry McVoy]

On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 07:04:18PM -0400, Ronald Natalie wrote:
> There might have been a simpler icon editor.   My memory of the early X stuff is pretty hazy.

My memory of early X stuff is porting it to everything.  Masscomps, Suns,
IBM RTs.  Port, port, port.  

[TUHS] earliest paint program for X

[Ronald Natalie]

I was a server guy.   I did one of the first cfb drivers for a 24 bit (RasterOps) framebuffer.   Did some extension work for HP, wrote two servers for IBM (on the i860 no less) and one for Dome Imaging.

> On Jul 11, 2016, at 7:05 PM, Larry McVoy <lm at mcvoy.com> wrote:
> 
> On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 07:04:18PM -0400, Ronald Natalie wrote:
>> There might have been a simpler icon editor.   My memory of the early X stuff is pretty hazy.
> 
> My memory of early X stuff is porting it to everything.  Masscomps, Suns,
> IBM RTs.  Port, port, port.  

[TUHS] earliest paint program for X

[Random832]

On Mon, Jul 11, 2016, at 19:04, Ronald Natalie wrote:
> There might have been a simpler icon editor.   My memory of the early X
> stuff is pretty hazy.

"bitmap" has a copyright (MIT) date of 1985. It does appear to be geared
to icon editing, the manpage says it has trouble with sizes greater than
99x99.

[TUHS] earliest paint program for X

[Ronald Natalie]

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Yes, that sounds like the thing I’m remembering.

> On Jul 11, 2016, at 7:36 PM, Random832 <random832 at fastmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On Mon, Jul 11, 2016, at 19:04, Ronald Natalie wrote:
>> There might have been a simpler icon editor.   My memory of the early X
>> stuff is pretty hazy.
> 
> "bitmap" has a copyright (MIT) date of 1985. It does appear to be geared
> to icon editing, the manpage says it has trouble with sizes greater than
> 99x99.

[TUHS] earliest paint program for X

[Lawrence Stewart]

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Not for X, but there was a bitmap editor called Markup on the Xerox Alto by 1976.

See http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/people/blampson/15a-AltoHandbook/15a-AltoHandbook.pdf for the user’s guide.

-Larry

[TUHS] earliest paint program for X

[Joerg Schilling]

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Mark Longridge <cubexyz at gmail.com> wrote:

> Ok, I hope this question isn't too off-topic...
>
> I was looking through the X10R3 source tree trying to find the
> earliest paint program for X. I wasn't able to see anything that
> looked like a paint program.
>
> Xpaint might be the oldest, wikipedia says the first version appeared in 1989.

Island paint exists since aprox. 1986, I am not sure if/when it has been ported 
from SunView to X.

Jörg

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