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From: norman@oclsc.org (Norman Wilson)
Subject: [TUHS] Shell control through external commands
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 08:27:18 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1468585644.26769.for-standards-violators@oclsc.org> (raw)

Random832:

  The existence of cd as a real command is a bit silly (Ubuntu doesn't
  seem to bother with it), but it is technically required by the standard.

===

Just for the record, Fedora 21 supplies /bin/cd, as part
of package bash-4.3.42-1.  Interestingly, it is a shell
script:

lu$ cat /bin/cd
#!/bin/sh
builtin cd "$@"
lu$ 

As has been said here, it's hard to see the functional point.

Others have remarked on the continued life of /bin/true and
/bin/false.  There are some who use those as shells in /etc/passwd
for logins that should never actually be allowed to do anything
directly.  I have no strong personal feeling about that, I'm just
reporting.

And to be fair (as has also already been displayed here), the
copyright notice inserted in the once-empty /bin/true was hundreds
of bytes long, not thousands.  Let us call out silliness, but let
us not make it out as any sillier than it actually is.

Norman Wilson
Toronto ON
UNIX old fart and amateur pedant


             reply	other threads:[~2016-07-15 12:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-15 12:27 Norman Wilson [this message]
2016-09-10  7:45 ` Dario Niedermann
2016-09-10  9:13   ` Michael Kjörling
2016-09-10  9:41     ` Joerg Schilling
2016-09-10 17:06     ` Random832
2016-09-10 17:45       ` Dario Niedermann
2016-09-10 19:53         ` Dan Cross
2016-09-10 20:02         ` Chet Ramey
2016-09-10 20:27           ` Dario Niedermann
2016-09-11 10:03         ` Diomidis Spinellis
2016-09-12 10:05         ` Jacob Goense
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2016-09-12 12:57 Norman Wilson
2016-09-12 12:56 Norman Wilson
2016-09-12  1:43 Norman Wilson
2016-09-12  9:18 ` Joerg Schilling
2016-09-12  1:31 Norman Wilson
2016-09-12  9:33 ` Joerg Schilling
2016-09-12  0:27 Doug McIlroy
2016-09-11 17:39 Doug McIlroy
2016-09-11 18:11 ` Clem Cole
2016-09-11 18:27 ` Dan Cross
2016-09-11 18:50   ` Sven Mascheck
2016-09-11 22:13     ` Random832
2016-09-10 14:57 Nemo
2016-07-15 16:47 Doug McIlroy
2016-09-10 17:40 ` Dario Niedermann
2016-09-10 19:22   ` arnold
2016-09-12  8:35     ` markus schnalke
2016-09-12  9:25       ` Joerg Schilling
2016-09-12 12:41         ` Tony Finch
2016-09-12 12:50           ` Joerg Schilling
2016-09-13  0:17             ` Sven Mascheck
2016-09-13  1:45               ` Sven Mascheck
2016-09-13  9:20               ` Joerg Schilling
2016-09-12 20:12       ` Dave Horsfall
2016-09-12 21:36         ` Dave Horsfall
2016-09-10 22:43   ` Dave Horsfall
2016-09-11  1:24     ` Ron Natalie
2016-09-11  2:39       ` arnold
2016-09-11  2:41         ` Ronald Natalie
2016-09-11  4:07         ` Dave Horsfall
2016-09-11  5:01           ` arnold
2016-09-12  5:49             ` Dave Horsfall
2016-07-15  4:29 Rudi Blom
2016-07-14 13:18 Diomidis Spinellis
2016-07-14 13:23 ` Clem Cole
2016-07-14 14:12   ` Mary Ann Horton
2016-07-14 22:36   ` Dave Horsfall
2016-07-14 22:47     ` Corey Lindsly
2016-07-14 22:49     ` Peter Jeremy
2016-07-14 23:27       ` Marc Rochkind
2016-07-15 10:13         ` Joerg Schilling
     [not found]       ` <CAH_OBieVFzPn93L8=_fmbUycZ7UmYdXiopC0vgei6RGDZp0mHw@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]         ` <CAH_OBie_6gFy+BqkCMj+sr0NqTMNOQxvgWf6SQnHMJpn7DAytA@mail.gmail.com>
2016-07-14 23:56           ` shawn wilson
2016-07-15  1:04             ` Dave Horsfall
2016-07-15  1:22               ` Steve Nickolas
2016-07-15  2:25               ` arnold
2016-07-16  6:26                 ` Dave Horsfall
2016-07-15  2:25             ` Random832
2016-07-15  3:59               ` Dave Horsfall
2016-07-15  4:09                 ` Random832
2016-07-15 13:55                 ` Chet Ramey
2016-07-14 23:10     ` Ronald Natalie
2016-07-15  1:41       ` Nemo
2016-07-15  9:00     ` Tony Finch
2016-07-14 14:11 ` schoedel
2016-07-14 14:38   ` Diomidis Spinellis
2016-07-14 15:46 ` John Cowan
2016-07-14 16:30   ` Random832
2016-07-14 22:32 ` Dave Horsfall

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