From: wes.parish@paradise.net.nz (Wesley Parish)
Subject: [TUHS] Mach for i386 / Mt Xinu or other
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2017 13:12:46 +1300 (NZDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1487635966.58ab85fec0716@www.paradise.net.nz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.02.1702201819160.34891@frieza.hoshinet.org>
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I think we can lay a lot of the blame for that major annoyance on the two related facts:
a: there is no universal windowing system everybody adheres to, just two major commercial ones with
spin-offs for smartphones and the like;
b: a lot of Linux developers are chasing MS Windows in hope of desktop market share and copy MS
Windows features and misfeatures.
A major irony is that MS Windows itself has chased Linux somewhat on the graphical user interface
front - Linux was the platform of GUI redesign for OLPC and Android, Microsoft took the bait and tried
it as a desktop in MS Win 8.0 and got slammed for it.
Setting out standards for a herd of cats is not much of an option; the best one could do is publish RFCs
giving a list of features that have been proven to work in practice and hope for the best.
Wesley Parish
Quoting Steve Nickolas <usotsuki at buric.co>:
> On Mon, 20 Feb 2017, Steve Johnson wrote:
>
<snip>
>
> > In terms of following the Unix philosophy, the widow managers on Linux
>
> > are getting more bizarre by the year. Hitting a key at random by
> > mistake can cause windows to disappear, screens of unknown utility to
>
> > appear, everything to disappear, etc. Setting options to try to
> achieve
> > some kind of consistency is totally different in each system. Etc.
> > etc.  There seems to be no larger organizing principle at work...
>
> Which is probably truer than you realize.
>
> -uso.
>
"I have supposed that he who buys a Method means to learn it." - Ferdinand Sor,
Method for Guitar
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Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-02-16 7:28 [TUHS] Mushi and Bagu Rudi Blom
2017-02-16 9:36 ` jsteve
2017-02-16 10:42 ` Nick Downing
2017-02-16 13:49 ` Rudi Blom
2017-02-17 11:30 ` [TUHS] Mach for i386 / Mt Xinu or other jsteve
2017-02-17 14:22 ` Clem Cole
2017-02-17 16:13 ` Chet Ramey
2017-02-17 14:29 ` Clem Cole
2017-02-17 17:23 ` Warner Losh
2017-02-18 22:25 ` Nemo
2017-02-19 6:20 ` jsteve
2017-02-19 7:01 ` Steve Nickolas
2017-02-19 13:46 ` Jason Stevens
2017-02-19 15:44 ` Larry McVoy
2017-02-20 18:14 ` Joerg Schilling
2017-02-20 22:24 ` Larry McVoy
2017-02-20 23:16 ` Steve Johnson
2017-02-20 23:18 ` Larry McVoy
2017-02-20 23:25 ` Steve Johnson
2017-02-20 23:20 ` Steve Nickolas
2017-02-21 0:12 ` Wesley Parish [this message]
2017-02-21 1:05 ` Steve Nickolas
2017-02-21 10:30 ` Joerg Schilling
2017-02-21 13:47 ` Random832
2017-02-21 15:18 ` Joerg Schilling
2017-02-21 15:54 ` Diomidis Spinellis
2017-02-21 16:38 ` Cory Smelosky
2017-02-21 16:48 ` Joerg Schilling
2017-02-21 16:32 ` Random832
2017-02-21 16:55 ` Joerg Schilling
2017-02-21 17:10 ` Dan Cross
2017-02-21 19:44 ` Joerg Schilling
2017-02-21 21:17 ` Dan Cross
2017-02-21 21:37 ` Larry McVoy
2017-02-22 8:57 ` jsteve
2017-02-22 9:56 ` Michael Kjörling
2017-02-22 10:26 ` jsteve
2017-02-22 10:29 ` Joerg Schilling
2017-02-19 21:19 ` Clem Cole
2017-02-20 0:29 ` Nick Downing
2017-02-20 1:58 ` Clem Cole
2017-02-20 1:29 ` Cory Smelosky
2017-02-19 22:59 ` Derek Fawcus
2017-02-17 15:47 Atindra Chaturvedi
2017-02-17 16:55 Noel Chiappa
2017-02-17 20:04 ` Clem Cole
2017-02-19 5:48 Jason Stevens
2017-02-20 6:38 Rudi Blom
2017-02-21 4:16 Doug McIlroy
2017-02-21 12:02 Noel Chiappa
2017-02-21 12:24 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-02-21 12:57 ` Michael Kjörling
2017-02-21 15:02 ` Clem Cole
2017-02-22 1:50 ` Dan Cross
2017-02-22 2:25 ` Steve Nickolas
2017-02-22 3:11 ` Clem Cole
2017-02-22 4:07 ` Dan Cross
2017-02-22 4:17 ` Larry McVoy
2017-02-23 15:31 ` Nemo
2017-02-23 16:00 ` Clem Cole
2017-02-23 16:50 ` Nemo
2017-02-23 22:02 ` Dave Horsfall
2017-02-24 1:30 ` Clem Cole
2017-02-24 20:54 ` Dave Horsfall
2017-02-24 1:01 ` Jason Stevens
2017-02-22 10:16 ` jsteve
2017-02-21 15:15 ` Chet Ramey
2017-02-21 16:47 ` Larry McVoy
2017-02-21 18:58 ` Clem Cole
2017-02-21 19:21 ` Larry McVoy
2017-02-21 20:17 ` Clem Cole
2017-02-21 20:28 ` Steve Nickolas
2017-02-21 20:32 ` Larry McVoy
2017-02-21 22:58 ` Wesley Parish
2017-02-22 1:19 ` Clem Cole
2017-02-22 9:00 ` jsteve
2017-02-22 0:52 ` Andy Kosela
2017-02-22 1:04 ` ron minnich
2017-02-22 1:33 ` jason-tuhs
2017-02-22 3:18 ` Larry McVoy
2017-02-22 3:45 ` ron minnich
2017-02-22 4:06 ` Larry McVoy
2017-02-22 4:11 ` Larry McVoy
2017-02-21 16:25 Noel Chiappa
2017-02-21 21:49 Noel Chiappa
2017-02-21 23:10 ` Nick Downing
2017-02-21 23:14 ` Arthur Krewat
2017-02-22 1:22 Rudi Blom
2017-02-22 3:08 ` Cory Smelosky
2017-02-22 3:51 Rudi Blom
2017-02-26 18:33 Norman Wilson
2017-02-28 20:26 ` Dave Horsfall
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