[TUHS] 4.3BSD TAHOE aka what is a TAHOE?!

[TUHS] 4.3BSD TAHOE aka what is a TAHOE?!

[jsteve]

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It’s embarrassing to mention this, but I thought I’d share.

I’ve always wondered what on earth a TAHOE was, as they disappeared just about as quickly as they came out.  As we all know that they were instrumental from separating out the VAX code from 4.3BSD in the official CSRG source.  I was looking through old usenet stuff when I typed in something wrong, and came across people looking for GCC for the Tahoe running BSD. (http://altavista.superglobalmegacorp.com/usenet/b128/comp/sys/tahoe/79.txt)


In article <2287 at trantor.harris-atd.com>, bbadger at x102c (Badger BA 64810) writes:
 `We have a Harris HCX-9 computer, also known as a Tahoe, and we'd like to 
 `get gcc and g++ up and running.  I haven't seen anything refering to 
 `the HCX or any Tahoe machines in the gcc distribution.  Anyone have it?
 `Working on it?  Pointers to who might?  Know if Berkely cc/ld/asm is PD?

Turns out they were using Harris mini’s called the HCX-9.  That’s when I went back to the source and saw this:

#
# GENERIC POWER 6/32 (HCX9)
#
machine		tahoe
cpu		"TAHOE"
ident		GENERIC

So if anyone else is wondering what was a Tahoe, did it exist, was there actual sales, is their pictures of it, etc, the answer is yes, it was a real machine, yes it was sold, and there are even print ads in Computer world.

I thought it was interesting though.


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[TUHS] 4.3BSD TAHOE aka what is a TAHOE?!

[Warren Toomey]

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On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 11:33:54AM +0800, jsteve at superglobalmegacorp.com wrote:
>    I’ve always wondered what on earth a TAHOE was, as they disappeared
>    just about as quickly as they came out.  As we all know that they were
>    instrumental from separating out the VAX code from 4.3BSD in the
>    official CSRG source.  I was looking through old usenet stuff when I
>    typed in something wrong, and came across people looking for GCC for
>    the Tahoe running BSD.
>    ([1]http://altavista.superglobalmegacorp.com/usenet/b128/comp/sys/tahoe
>    /79.txt)

I've exploded the Unix-related parts of the Usenet archive from UTZoo,
so you can look here for more Tahoe postings:

http://www.tuhs.org/Usenet/comp.sys.tahoe/

Cheers, Warren

P.S Also http://www.tuhs.org/Usenet
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[TUHS] 4.3BSD TAHOE aka what is a TAHOE?!

[jsteve]

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I went one further, and loaded the old AltaVista desktop search tool, extracted all the usenet, added .txt extensions to make Windows happy, and converted them to something IIS can deal with, then setup Apache to de-mangle the pages, and a stunnel connection from Apache to the AltaVista desktop search as it only listens on 127.0.0.1:9988 .. So the upshot is that you can search the usenet archive via AltaVista

http://altavista.superglobalmegacorp.com

I know there is a million ‘modern’ ways to do this, but I had though this was cooler.


From: Warren Toomey
Sent: Saturday, 25 February 2017 11:53 AM
To: jsteve at superglobalmegacorp.com
Cc: tuhs at minnie.tuhs.org
Subject: Re: [TUHS] 4.3BSD TAHOE aka what is a TAHOE?!

On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 11:33:54AM +0800, jsteve at superglobalmegacorp.com
wrote:
>    I’ve always wondered what on earth a TAHOE was, as they disappeared
>    just about as quickly as they came out.  As we all know that they
were
>    instrumental from separating out the VAX code from 4.3BSD in the
>    official CSRG source.  I was looking through old usenet stuff when
I
>    typed in something wrong, and came across people looking for GCC
for
>    the Tahoe running BSD.
>
([1]http://altavista.superglobalmegacorp.com/usenet/b128/comp/sys/tahoe
>    /79.txt)

I've exploded the Unix-related parts of the Usenet archive from UTZoo,
so you can look here for more Tahoe postings:

http://www.tuhs.org/Usenet/comp.sys.tahoe/

Cheers, Warren

P.S Also http://www.tuhs.org/Usenet

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[TUHS] 4.3BSD TAHOE aka what is a TAHOE?!

[Erik E. Fair]

Aside from being the name of the very large lake I live near, the
"Tahoe" was a system from Computer Consoles, Inc. (CCI):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_Consoles_Inc.

	Erik

[TUHS] 4.3BSD TAHOE aka what is a TAHOE?!

[Cory Smelosky]

On Thu, Feb 23, 2017, at 20:23, Erik E. Fair wrote:
> Aside from being the name of the very large lake I live near, the
> "Tahoe" was a system from Computer Consoles, Inc. (CCI):
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_Consoles_Inc.
> 
> 	Erik

Have you ever seen a picture of one, though? ;)

I found a picture of the Harris system once...tried to track down who
owns the IP, too.

It got really confusing when it split between Nortel and someone else...
-- 
  Cory Smelosky
  b4 at gewt.net

[TUHS] 4.3BSD TAHOE aka what is a TAHOE?!

[jsteve]

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As a matter of fact, I’ve found 2 images….

https://virtuallyfun.superglobalmegacorp.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Harris-HCX-9-print-ad.jpg

https://virtuallyfun.superglobalmegacorp.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Oracle-worker.png

Something tells me this was neither light, nor was it quite.

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From: Cory Smelosky
Sent: Saturday, 25 February 2017 12:42 PM
To: tuhs at minnie.tuhs.org
Subject: Re: [TUHS] 4.3BSD TAHOE aka what is a TAHOE?!



On Thu, Feb 23, 2017, at 20:23, Erik E. Fair wrote:
> Aside from being the name of the very large lake I live near, the
> "Tahoe" was a system from Computer Consoles, Inc. (CCI):
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_Consoles_Inc.
> 
> 	Erik

Have you ever seen a picture of one, though? ;)

I found a picture of the Harris system once...tried to track down who
owns the IP, too.

It got really confusing when it split between Nortel and someone else...
-- 
  Cory Smelosky
  b4 at gewt.net

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[TUHS] 4.3BSD TAHOE aka what is a TAHOE?!

[Cory Smelosky]

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On Thu, Feb 23, 2017, at 20:35, jsteve at superglobalmegacorp.com wrote:

> As a matter of fact, I’ve found 2 images….



>  



> https://virtuallyfun.superglobalmegacorp.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Harris-HCX-9-print-ad.jpg
>  



> https://virtuallyfun.superglobalmegacorp.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Oracle-worker.png
>  



> Something tells me this was neither light, nor was it quite.



>  



> Sent from Mail[1] for Windows 10



>  



> *From: *Cory Smelosky[2] *Sent: *Saturday, 25 February 2017 12:42 PM
> *To: *tuhs at minnie.tuhs.org *Subject: *Re: [TUHS] 4.3BSD TAHOE aka what
> is a TAHOE?!
>  



>  



>  



> On Thu, Feb 23, 2017, at 20:23, Erik E. Fair wrote:



> > Aside from being the name of the very large lake I live near, the
> > "Tahoe" was a system from Computer Consoles, Inc. (CCI):



> >



> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_Consoles_Inc.



> >



> >             Erik



>  



> Have you ever seen a picture of one, though? ;)



>  



> I found a picture of the Harris system once...tried to track down who
> owns the IP, too.



>  



> It got really confusing when it split between Nortel and
> someone else...
> --



>   Cory Smelosky



>   b4 at gewt.net



>  





Has anyone tried contacting Harris for more info? :D



--

  Cory Smelosky

  b4 at gewt.net






Links:

  1. https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986
  2. mailto:b4 at gewt.net
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[TUHS] 4.3BSD TAHOE aka what is a TAHOE?!

[jsteve]

It was mostly a processor set.  It was resold by Harris, Unisys and CCI.  The Harris HCX-9 is the interesting one though.

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From: Erik E. Fair
Sent: Saturday, 25 February 2017 12:38 PM
To: jsteve at superglobalmegacorp.com
Cc: tuhs at minnie.tuhs.org
Subject: Re: [TUHS] 4.3BSD TAHOE aka what is a TAHOE?!

Aside from being the name of the very large lake I live near, the
"Tahoe" was a system from Computer Consoles, Inc. (CCI):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_Consoles_Inc.

	Erik

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[TUHS] 4.3BSD TAHOE aka what is a TAHOE?!

[Dave Horsfall]

On Thu, 23 Feb 2017, Erik E. Fair wrote:

> Aside from being the name of the very large lake I live near, the 
> "Tahoe" was a system from Computer Consoles, Inc. (CCI):
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_Consoles_Inc.

Ahh...  I remember the CCI Power series very well.  IIRC, there was the 
5/32 (a pissy little box, until the 5/32X came along, which actually did 
the Right Thing (tm) when it implemented instruction restart correctly 
upon a SEGV) and the 6/32 (we had the 8MHz board, whereas most users had 
the 5MHz board; "we got cycles to burn!").

Those were the days, when geeks did their best but were over-ruled by the 
marketoids; oh, the stories I could tell about my STC days (known by the 
geeks as "Strangled Tangled and Confused), but I'm unsure about the 
Statute of Limitations...

 - 
Dave Horsfall DTM (VK2KFU)  "Those who don't understand security will suffer."