From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 3297 invoked from network); 26 Jun 2022 11:05:00 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 26 Jun 2022 11:05:00 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 594F740950; Sun, 26 Jun 2022 21:04:53 +1000 (AEST) Received: from ewsoutbound.kpnmail.nl (ewsoutbound.kpnmail.nl [195.121.94.170]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E2F19407B4 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2022 21:04:46 +1000 (AEST) X-KPN-MessageId: bf913b00-f53f-11ec-8294-005056ab378f Received: from smtp.kpnmail.nl (unknown [10.31.155.38]) by ewsoutbound.so.kpn.org (Halon) with ESMTPS id bf913b00-f53f-11ec-8294-005056ab378f; Sun, 26 Jun 2022 13:04:28 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=planet.nl; s=planet01; h=to:message-id:date:from:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=G9U5fEqntVKjmJ39AaJGDlfchksGuBTKBWVRbeOCpUs=; b=CxaWbTP8dMsXWP7OkkWfKqo4i5Km7p2LPPsDenUt/5kA1IfoeK8C0plsLZi/X4KZv3l7rWO22wGrz kk6lOBLHLI3O38plJP4vouctJyrKOig/wulHqKIetKUmqZwBqnJnP0b83Zw2A6Z61tOEC1RQd9EDQN HYC8eYqdHLxDqIo4= X-KPN-MID: 33|B1Rvwy4a/VW0J8SK0y9CCgh81LciWKYAiS1qQrZNtNgJSUzuYb3QuxHtYvvg0JO fQY+XLrqa8hhuRs8DI40cc5aFF9nuDycz4ybZ+AvPUuw= X-KPN-VerifiedSender: Yes X-CMASSUN: 33|Oz9QSxttOEOjrfPaAH5Pd2X8Lt1Cyd7nErMLbVowvP35OyuXntV7xDSODv5cqAp fLH/1AoV8+kH8vDqb4gqX6Q== X-Originating-IP: 77.172.38.96 Received: from smtpclient.apple (77-172-38-96.fixed.kpn.net [77.172.38.96]) by smtp.kpnmail.nl (Halon) with ESMTPSA id c63c9de1-f53f-11ec-b5e4-005056abf0db; Sun, 26 Jun 2022 13:04:40 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.120.0.1.13\)) From: Paul Ruizendaal In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2022 13:04:39 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <14E73B91-1A99-4A14-9EE2-6331A4804C27@planet.nl> References: <2803DC51-6CBC-4257-B40C-8A559C27CAE3@planet.nl> To: Anthony Martin X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.120.0.1.13) Message-ID-Hash: R7BMVTWNM6QLBV5U22DWVDEKXWTHTDEI X-Message-ID-Hash: R7BMVTWNM6QLBV5U22DWVDEKXWTHTDEI X-MailFrom: pnr@planet.nl X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: tuhs@tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Research Datakit notes List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: > On 26 Jun 2022, at 03:41, Anthony Martin wrote: >=20 > Really nice outline. I felt some d=C3=A9j=C3=A0 vu when opening the = document: I > remember reading your notes in April of 2020. Thank you. Yes, I have not updated these notes since then. > Would you happen to know where I can find copies of these three > papers? >=20 > A. G. Fraser, "Datakit - A Modular Network for Synchronous and > Asynchronous Traffic", Proc. ICC 79, June 1979, Boston, Ma., > pp.20.1.1-20.1.3 >=20 > G. L. Chesson, "Datakit Software Architecture", Proc. ICC 79, June > 1979, Boston Ma., pp.20.2.1-20.2.5 >=20 > G. L. Chesson and A. G. Fraser, "Datakit Network Architecture," Proc. > Compcon 80, February 1980, San Fransisco CA., pp.59-61 Two of these three were in Sandy Fraser=E2=80=99s archives: https://www.jslite.net/notes/dk1.pdf https://www.jslite.net/notes/dk2.pdf The middle one is I fear lost - unless a paper copy of the proceedings = is still lurking in some university library. I think it will be mostly = about the =E2=80=9CCMC=E2=80=9D switch control software, which is = somewhat described in the Luderer paper as well. As far as I can tell, = there is no surviving Unix code that was designed for the CMC version of = Datakit (unless someone is sitting on a V7 tape with the Datakit drivers = still included). > To connect to one of the Plan 9 cpu servers at Bell Labs, you would > dial "nj/astro/helix!9fs=E2=80=9D. Out of interest, would you know if the switch-host interface for Datakit = in the days of Plan9 worked more or less the same as in 8th Edition? Or = had it much evolved by then?