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([2600:8801:f004:f0f0::46d]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 205-20020a6219d6000000b0050dc762814bsm10905935pfz.37.2022.05.10.08.28.21 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 10 May 2022 08:28:22 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------57NXZlmETNM8odA2CZ20PIav" Message-ID: <1505232b-86bd-0d65-52c7-c8d19bd0663c@mhorton.net> Date: Tue, 10 May 2022 08:28:21 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.8.1 Content-Language: en-US To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org References: <57977CE7-DDCC-4861-BBD2-843B9B9F51C2@ronnatalie.com> From: Mary Ann Horton In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [TUHS] First Unix-like OSes not derived from AT&T code? X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------57NXZlmETNM8odA2CZ20PIav Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I recall having an IBM PC port of UNIX in the 1980s on floppy with a black 6x9 box and Charlie Chaplin with the red rose. I thought it was called AIX. I installed it, and recall it being very different from UNIX for sysadmin (different logs, different admin commands) but similar for users. I thought it was based on System III or thereabouts. I can't find any evidence of this. It appears AIX 1.0 wasn't for the original PC. Does anyone else recall this distribution and what it was called or based on? Thanks,     Mary Ann On 5/1/22 19:08, Kenneth Goodwin wrote: > My understanding of AIX was that IBM licensed the System V source code > and then proceeded to "make it their own". I had a days experience > with it on a POS cash register fixing a client issue. The shocker - > they changed all the error messages to error codes with a look at the > manual requirement. > > Not sure if this is true in its entirety or not. > But that's what I recall, thst it was not a from scratch rewrite but > more along the lines of other vendor UNIX clones of the time. > License the source, change the name and then beat it to death. > > On Sun, May 1, 2022, 2:08 PM ron minnich wrote: > > in terms of rewrites from manuals, while it was not the first, as I > understand it, AIX was an example of "read the manual, write the > code." > > Unlike Coherent, it had lots of cases of things not done quite right. > One standout in my mind was mkdir -p, which would return an error if > the full path existed. oops. > > But it was pointed out to me that Condor had all kinds of code to > handle AIX being different from just about everything else. > > --------------57NXZlmETNM8odA2CZ20PIav Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

I recall having an IBM PC port of UNIX in the 1980s on floppy with a black 6x9 box and Charlie Chaplin with the red rose. I thought it was called AIX. I installed it, and recall it being very different from UNIX for sysadmin (different logs, different admin commands) but similar for users. I thought it was based on System III or thereabouts.

I can't find any evidence of this. It appears AIX 1.0 wasn't for the original PC.

Does anyone else recall this distribution and what it was called or based on?

Thanks,

    Mary Ann

On 5/1/22 19:08, Kenneth Goodwin wrote:
My understanding of AIX was that IBM licensed the System V source code and then proceeded to "make it their own". I had a days experience with it on a POS cash register fixing a client issue. The shocker - they changed all the error messages to error codes with a look at the manual requirement.

Not sure if this is true in its entirety or not.
But that's what I recall, thst it was not a from scratch rewrite but more along the lines of other vendor UNIX clones of the time. 
License the source, change the name and then beat it to death.

On Sun, May 1, 2022, 2:08 PM ron minnich <rminnich@gmail.com> wrote:
in terms of rewrites from manuals, while it was not the first, as I
understand it, AIX was an example of "read the manual, write the
code."

Unlike Coherent, it had lots of cases of things not done quite right.
One standout in my mind was mkdir -p, which would return an error if
the full path existed. oops.

But it was pointed out to me that Condor had all kinds of code to
handle AIX being different from just about everything else.


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