From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: wes.parish@paradise.net.nz (Wesley Parish) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2017 12:22:33 +1300 (NZDT) Subject: [TUHS] UNIX of choice these days? In-Reply-To: <20170926144155.GW28606@mcvoy.com> References: <20170924140617.GG28606@mcvoy.com> <20170924203621.GA80203@wopr> <49B7FCB8-A086-4FFB-AF3B-4B3BD167EC54@bitblocks.com> <1506297783.59c847b740373@www.paradise.net.nz> <1506386563.59c9a2834015a@www.paradise.net.nz> <20170926144155.GW28606@mcvoy.com> Message-ID: <1506468153.59cae13933678@www.paradise.net.nz> FWIW, I got the idea from finding out what SCSI was supposed to be - a set of devices with everything on the same level as a node, controller included. I was reading Tanenbaum's Minix book at the time and liked the idea of everything as a file, so "everything as a file" and "every device as a node" just clicked as ideal complements - with "everything designed to do one thing (only) and do it well" being self-evident, or so I thought. Nanokernels in every device, naturally, with some form of authentication being one of the few things built-in, was something else I considered self-evident. I've thought a lot of things self-evident. :) FWLIW :) Wesley Parish Quoting Larry McVoy : > So maybe Ron Minnich will remember this. Back in the days of 10Mbit > ethernet I was pushing for 100Mbit. Part of what I wanted was ethernet > all the way out to the disk drives. It was a little ahead of its time, > the idea was to run Linux on the general purpose processor and be able > to send the questions to the drive rather than slurping all the data > across and pawing through it on the main CPU. That was part of the > idea, the other part was power over ethernet and you need more space? > Just plug in a drive. > > It's been over 20 years since I proposed that and things are starting > to look up a little. Western Digital made a version of what I wanted, > an ethernet attached drive with a key/value store on the drive. Not > quite there but closer. And I just stumbled across this: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_center_bridging > > Not sure how well that will work but it's interesting that people are > working on it. > > On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 01:42:43PM +1300, Wesley Parish wrote: > > Yes. I thought it made a lot of sense. > > > > Quoting Tony Finch : > > > > > Wesley Parish wrote: > > > > > > > I once thought of developing a computer where everything from the > > > core > > > > functions to the peripherals was a network node. In effect > replacing > > > the > > > > bus. I found references to a Cambridge U (UK) computer system > that > > > > purported to do just that but couldn't find any more info on it. > > > > > > The Desk Area Network, perhaps? > > > http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/research/srg/dan.html > > > > > > Tony. > > > -- > > > f.anthony.n.finch http://dotat.at/ - I xn--zr8h > punycode > > > Malin, Hebrides: Southeast 3 or 4, increasing 5 or 6, occasionally > 7 > > > later in > > > west. Moderate becoming rough later. Fair. Good. > > > > > > > > > > > "I have supposed that he who buys a Method means to learn it." - > Ferdinand Sor, > > Method for Guitar > > > > "A verbal contract isn't worth the paper it's written on." -- Samuel > Goldwyn > > -- > --- > Larry McVoy lm at mcvoy.com http://www.mcvoy.com/lm > "I have supposed that he who buys a Method means to learn it." - Ferdinand Sor, Method for Guitar "A verbal contract isn't worth the paper it's written on." -- Samuel Goldwyn