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From: <ron@ronnatalie.com>
To: "'Bakul Shah'" <bakul@bitblocks.com>, "'TUHS'" <tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org>
Subject: Re: [TUHS] C++ / Kernel
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 18:17:06 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <151301d43b2f$07881ed0$16985c70$@ronnatalie.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ACE5F352-8FCF-4C3C-B60B-7CD1C6094939@bitblocks.com>



> I haven't done much BSD kernel programming in last 15 years but this is
not my recollection. BSD used caddr_t, typedefed to char*, sort of as void
*. IIRC void* 
>came in common use after BSD unix first came about. Why use a union when a
cast will do? :-) The union trick is more likely to be used for esoteric
things 
> (like getting at fl.pt. bytes) or for more complex types or probably by
people with lots of programming experience in pascal and not so much in C
(in Pascal 
>you *had* to use untagged variant records if you wanted to cheat!). In C,
all that void* does is allow you to avoid casts in some cases.

Your recollections are certainly wrong.    I spent a lot of time tracing
down why the Kernel crashed doing I/O and traced it to this and spent a
while undoing it as I stated.
This union was right in the middle of the buf struct:

	union {
	    caddr_t b_addr;		/* low order core address */
	    int	*b_words;		/* words for clearing */
	    struct filsys *b_filsys;	/* superblocks */
	    struct dinode *b_dino;	/* ilist */
	    daddr_t *b_daddr;		/* indirect block */
	} b_un;
There were a number of other places that did the same thing.   It's
OFFICIALLY now in undefined behavior by the standard (though of course that
didn't exist in the BSD days) ,
to store in one element of the union and retrieve it via another.   This is
one of the reasons why.

This isn't the only place it occurs.

Void* came out with the V7 compiler, if I recall properly.   The BSD kernel
looks as if it requires such a later compiler (it uses bit fields which the
earlier compilers didn't support).
But it doesn't matter.   You are right char* (or caddr_t) would work just
fine for this albeit with some explicit casting.



  reply	other threads:[~2018-08-23 22:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-08-23 14:42 ron
2018-08-23 17:24 ` Clem Cole
2018-08-23 20:21 ` Bakul Shah
2018-08-23 22:17   ` ron [this message]
2018-08-23 22:28     ` Nevin Liber
2018-08-23 22:48       ` Clem Cole
2018-08-23 23:14     ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2018-08-24 14:13       ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2018-08-24 14:32         ` ron
2018-08-24 18:15           ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2018-08-26 16:34             ` Paul Winalski
2018-08-27 16:31               ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2018-08-24  1:41     ` Bakul Shah
2018-08-24 10:41       ` Pete Turnbull
2018-08-24 12:17       ` ron
2018-08-24 18:36         ` Bakul Shah
2018-08-24 18:38           ` ron
2018-08-24  1:58     ` Dan Cross
2018-08-24  3:04       ` Clem cole
2018-08-24 14:01         ` Dan Cross
2018-08-24 13:22 ` Derek Fawcus
2018-08-24 16:59   ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2018-08-23 23:29 Noel Chiappa
2018-08-23 23:42 ` ron
2018-08-24  0:30   ` Clem Cole
2018-08-24  2:05     ` Bakul Shah
2018-08-24 12:21     ` ron
2018-08-24  1:27 Noel Chiappa
2018-08-24  2:52 ` Clem cole
2018-08-24  7:30 Paul Ruizendaal

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