From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 13995 invoked from network); 4 Aug 2023 02:27:12 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (2600:3c01:e000:146::1) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 4 Aug 2023 02:27:12 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38326423BD; Fri, 4 Aug 2023 12:27:09 +1000 (AEST) Received: from cesium.clock.org (cesium.clock.org [157.22.10.65]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B38E9423BC for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2023 12:27:05 +1000 (AEST) Received: from cesium.clock.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cesium.clock.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F203CBEA8 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2023 19:26:52 -0700 (PDT) From: "Erik E. Fair" In-reply-to: References: To: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2023 19:26:52 -0700 Message-ID: <15156.1691116012@cesium.clock.org> Message-ID-Hash: K7JCKUNT7TGCS26HL45DZL3TVSSLLC46 X-Message-ID-Hash: K7JCKUNT7TGCS26HL45DZL3TVSSLLC46 X-MailFrom: fair-tuhs@netbsd.org X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: emacs List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: I first learned original TECO-based EMACS on the Stanford CERAS DECsystem-20/60 = running TOPS-20 during the summer of 1978 - I'd been using line-editors before = that, and EMACS was a revelation. Heck, "intelligent" (CRT) terminals were a = terrific replacement for teletypes, DECwriters, and "glass" TTYs. When I got to UCB in the fall of 1980, it took until Winter quarter (1981) to = get an account on the Cory Hall (EECS) PDP-11/70 running 2.8 BSD Unix, through = the Berkeley Computer Club. The Warren Montgomery emacs was available, and = since I already knew emacs keystrokes, that was my editor of choice ... = initially. I converted to vi because I really hated having one finger on the = CTRL key all day long. It was also nice that the BSD tty line discpline displays what you type along = the same lines as TOPS-20 did, including word-erase, though trying to use ^W = that way in most emacs absolutely violates the Principle of Least Astonishment = ... which if you've ever interacted with rms, should not really surprise given = what he did with ^S, ^Q, and ^H. Emacs has been available (in one form or another) on Unix for a very long = time. Erik