From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 226609ad for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2018 21:06:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id E328CA208B; Tue, 4 Dec 2018 07:06:32 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B1BBA1CE4; Tue, 4 Dec 2018 07:06:21 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 81E96A1CE4; Tue, 4 Dec 2018 07:06:20 +1000 (AEST) X-Greylist: delayed 1190 seconds by postgrey-1.35 at minnie.tuhs.org; Tue, 04 Dec 2018 07:06:20 AEST Received: from mout2.fh-giessen.de (mout2.fh-giessen.de [212.201.18.46]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 052BD94A37 for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2018 07:06:20 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mx3.fh-giessen.de ([212.201.18.28]) by mout2.fh-giessen.de with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.91) (envelope-from ) id 1gTv6q-000LoJ-EA for tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org; Mon, 03 Dec 2018 21:46:28 +0100 Received: from mailgate-2.its.fh-giessen.de ([212.201.18.14]) by mx3.fh-giessen.de with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.91) (envelope-from ) id 1gTv6q-001LbG-B4 for tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org; Mon, 03 Dec 2018 21:46:28 +0100 Received: from p5deb5575.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([93.235.85.117] helo=papa2.fritz.box) by mailgate-2.its.fh-giessen.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.91) (envelope-from ) id 1gTv6q-000RQ5-4V for tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org; Mon, 03 Dec 2018 21:46:28 +0100 Message-ID: <1543869987.2133.4.camel@mni.thm.de> From: Hellwig Geisse To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2018 21:46:27 +0100 In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.18.5.2-0ubuntu3.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [TUHS] Happy birthday, John Backus! X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On Mo, 2018-12-03 at 15:20 -0500, Paul Winalski wrote: > Of course one can write a grammar for Fortran using a formal system > such as BNF.  It's just not going to be a well-behaved context-free > grammar such as one can do for C or Pascal, and you won't be able to > feed the grammar to lex and yacc, press a button, and have a compiler > pop out. This in fact also isn't possible for C because of the "typedef problem". See for example here: http://eli.thegreenplace.net/2007/11/24/the-context-sensitivity-of-cs-grammar Hellwig