From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, SPF_PASS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: (qmail 26245 invoked from network); 4 Apr 2020 15:57:35 -0000 Received-SPF: pass (minnie.tuhs.org: domain of minnie.tuhs.org designates 45.79.103.53 as permitted sender) receiver=inbox.vuxu.org; client-ip=45.79.103.53 envelope-from= Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with UTF8ESMTPZ; 4 Apr 2020 15:57:35 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id AD2489C621; Sun, 5 Apr 2020 01:57:30 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73EC89C203; Sun, 5 Apr 2020 01:57:04 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="XeyR1YOi"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 10B6A9C203; Sun, 5 Apr 2020 01:57:01 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-qt1-f177.google.com (mail-qt1-f177.google.com [209.85.160.177]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 817209C14A for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2020 01:57:00 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-qt1-f177.google.com with SMTP id x16so9125757qts.11 for ; Sat, 04 Apr 2020 08:57:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=kWMET8fn60s4R4dGjO0koq0cXlFfVSWtElKR2r3wqNk=; b=XeyR1YOiAvs5pjLH1Ts2n9jKyPN2CYBiLEOt2Zq6hQy/6Y0uFJyIF7fIBdKTOfThSB Zr3kuraMUr0ygJUJuZtEU0GJbPzZLyJ824W07RsDqcGGthW+tvb3juqRsLY7d7e8VM9s F7DxGuOyOWNV295TEJ8+7Lck5GA+J94M+EsB/D2VKqZen3F4mY6xm1K5JO+kf3h5gRZv nrN+0QhaFekhDp8C2FS7mlf8ucl+HDYdRM7BE9XCyh+M5gSP+KhpxhMHDSPLCh7qqVxD 6spi72yBoIpb1RCbCF4nwFRyrpqnnFLYAYOelOnMnIJ//MFpSGJ9xKe5MX+k49Rk1AVU p7Bw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=kWMET8fn60s4R4dGjO0koq0cXlFfVSWtElKR2r3wqNk=; b=S3DP16QeeHXZc3G0yB019R26MQZOwZMjQClHHGVGCLF96yvMFjFGi9LLp7tX7WG3O8 vggW9WHdehLIRpkq77x2tkxxAbkrTkYs3WtvKlHkrlCgmZH3TApLcQ/4FHwzLfN3VM+j t7TW2tHobSQt4GmON+zA0pe9FEhW+teQudS3zfOWwcDHJZZn1WhA5fEg0BCr7So+Rb10 YLq/KLHer/F8VJnXGF8u1Xf54gi36uxquGKH0WuNCSwOFZJqerN030TOHIUMu/eICaaM hETlzfaybtqYKgVZozS0XPMcIQZKI6uo0j/K4xpMdFWsHAitSREkwdqa5HUuQOs6KYAe losw== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0PuYRFrFwf5izYWGLLnqCAPmKPArzU0J2r+RZJm2NaQe4jLald+Dc oNEIi4ynmEhaTFr4O/loDYqscop15WU= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypLu3nCfZcMyrSROgxGdKu4VhJ4gLK9vCaOHLlbsivcZ9vbNkt+5gO8kT389BDGAFvGWUSNlOw== X-Received: by 2002:ac8:31eb:: with SMTP id i40mr13322595qte.313.1586015819373; Sat, 04 Apr 2020 08:56:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.24] (198.27.14-65.ip.mltn.standardbroadband.ca. [198.27.14.65]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id h13sm1010396qkj.21.2020.04.04.08.56.58 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 04 Apr 2020 08:56:58 -0700 (PDT) To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org References: <1jKkMQ-2hN-00@marmaro.de> From: Nemo Nusquam Message-ID: <154b6bec-aaaf-4c40-54b9-4409e0940a05@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2020 11:48:15 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; SunOS sun4u; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1jKkMQ-2hN-00@marmaro.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [TUHS] First book on Unix for general readership X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On 04/04/20 11:05, markus schnalke wrote (in part): > Thus I now wonder what the first book on Unix, intended for a general > readership was. Not to be overly pedantic but what would be a "general readership"? For example, I understand that the patent dep't was an early Unix customer. Would they been a general readership (and how were they taught)? (I would think that many of today's grunt-and-poke UI generation would have difficulty with a cli.) N.