From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN, FREEMAIL_FROM,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id f18b4cfc for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2019 06:02:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 48BCFA1F39; Sun, 6 Jan 2019 16:02:23 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75D3EA1C50; Sun, 6 Jan 2019 16:01:50 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 70C09A1C5C; Sun, 6 Jan 2019 16:01:47 +1000 (AEST) Received: from smtp.zmail.com (smtp02.zmail.com [82.165.227.143]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ACB5FA1C50 for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2019 16:01:46 +1000 (AEST) Received: from india-live-spam04.icom.lan (india-live-spam04.icom.lan [10.72.59.44]) by smtp.zmail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63F4C1A0542 for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2019 06:01:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by india-live-spam04.icom.lan (Postfix) with ESMTP id 615E61000B5 for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2019 06:01:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.zmail.com ([10.72.59.197]) by localhost (india-live-spam04.icom.lan [10.72.59.40]) (amavisd-new, port 20025) with ESMTP id K1Nq4p6IpA0T for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2019 06:01:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from india-live-be04.icom.lan (india-live-be04.icom.lan [10.72.59.36]) by smtp.zmail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA82D300DE2; Sun, 6 Jan 2019 06:01:44 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2019 06:01:44 +0000 (UTC) To: grog@lemis.com, Chris Hanson Message-ID: <1584792008.119344.1546754504662.JavaMail.tomcat@india-live-be04> References: <201901050226.x052QigU089781@tahoe.cs.Dartmouth.EDU> <22BA2F17-310F-4396-A35A-23E2D1130018@ronnatalie.com> <20190105153133.GA24497@mcvoy.com> <857E28A8-A1A7-48DD-A60D-05FADD93C6C5@eschatologist.net>, <20190106024054.GA27103@eureka.lemis.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 In-Reply-To: <20190106024054.GA27103@eureka.lemis.com> X-Origin-Reference: 11110_SU5CT1g=_PDIwMTkwMTA2MDI0MDU0LkdBMjcxMDNAZXVyZWthLmxlbWlzLmNvbT4=_REPLY X-Origin: Greg 'groggy' Lehey X-Origin-Recipient: Chris Hanson X-Origin-Received: 6 Jan 2019 02:51:32 +0000 (+00:00) X-Origin-Subject: Re: [TUHS] Emacs (was: Isaacson v Unix) X-Priority: 3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Donald ODona X-Mailer: zMail Mailer (beta) Subject: Re: [TUHS] Emacs (was: Isaacson v Unix) X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" teco, a very early (even earlier than qed/ed) character based editor, rather a stream editor in unix terms, was written by the student dan murphy for the pdp-1 in around 1964. In the 70ths two teco macro collections were popular in MIT's AI lab: tmacs&temacs, written by gus steele et al., leaving both packages unmaintained. rms took over maintenance, consolidating and improving them. That's all. He neither written teco nor the teco macro packages. At 6 Jan 2019 02:51:32 +0000 (+00:00) from Greg 'groggy' Lehey : > On Saturday, 5 January 2019 at 17:43:43 -0800, Chris Hanson wrote: > > On Jan 5, 2019, at 7:31 AM, Larry McVoy wrote: > >> > >> +1. RMS always talked big but the real work was done by other people. > >> GCC was Tiemann at Sun and then at Cygnus, groff was James Clark, > >> etc. I think RMS hacked on emacs but not much else. > > > > Which I thought was originally derived from Unipress emacs > > (Gosmacs), and was why old source code used to be hard to find. > > I don't think there's any serious doubt that rms wrote the original > Emacs, in TECO. If I understand it correctly, though, he took > significant improvements, including screen redisplay, from Gosling > Emacs. > > Greg > -- > Sent from my desktop computer. > Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key. > See complete headers for address and phone numbers. > This message is digitally signed. If your Microsoft mail program > reports problems, please read http://lemis.com/broken-MUA