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From: krewat@kilonet.net (Arthur Krewat)
Subject: [TUHS] Help request: uucp, mail on 4.2BSD
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 12:45:47 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <15e2a90f-b41f-b613-5c8a-47c12288de3e@kilonet.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAC20D2MCFBN4e=4j2B0L1=WchCVgEf7sVVv2KGNa4ECWjSSXgA@mail.gmail.com>

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I ran Taylor UUCP on a small BBS system (3 lines!) I ran from my 
apartment in Deer Park, NY, circa 1991-1994 - USENET node kilowatt

It was on System V R4 by Consensys on a 486-33 and later a 486DX2-66 - 
but some things were badly broken, so much so that things like UUCP 
weren't even usable. I don't remember why. Might have had something to 
do with the devices.

So Taylor it was. I have version 1.04 source code.

Hooked up to Motorola (mcdhup) in Hauppauge for USENET news and email, 
using a Telebit Worldblazer, and then disseminated it to various other 
small USENET nodes.

I had quite an interesting routing setup for the mail system included 
with SVR4 (mailsurr?) that would take the UUCP maps posted in 
comp.mail.maps, run them through pathalias and construct a complete path 
to every node in the map. It was the only way I knew of to deal with 
multiple systems I could connect to that would in turn also connect to 
multiple other USENET nodes. I had no definitive "smart host".



On 3/7/2017 12:17 PM, Clem Cole wrote:
>
> On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 10:23 AM, Dave Horsfall <dave at horsfall.org 
> <mailto:dave at horsfall.org>> wrote:
>
>     It's been ages since I delved into UUCP; first was the
>     ​ ​
>     "original", then HoneyDanBer.
>
>
> ​Actually this is a great question for this list .. how many 
> implementations were created?
> 1.) The original 1978 version that shipped with V7 and 32/V (BSD 4.1 
> and 4.2)
> 2,) PC-UUCP for DOS came next -- I never knew how much was ripped off 
> from the original, because at the time, the Chesson's G protocol was 
> not well specified.   The authors claimed to have reverse engineered 
> it - I will say it worked.
> 3.) Honey-Dan-Ber rewrite - most popular for a long time
> 4.) Taylor UUCP first real clone that I know of that I do think was 
> done with out looking at other's source.  G protocol had been publicly 
> documented by then and the Trailblazer in fact was shipping with the 
> protocol imbedded in it.
>
> Any others that folks know about and how well were they used?  Did 
> things like Coherent have a UUCP?   Linux and FreeBSD were able to use 
> to Taylor UUCP because it became available by then.    Whitesmith's 
> Idris lacked anything like UUCP IIRC (but was based on V6).   Same 
> with Thoth originally at Waterloo, but by the time they shipped it as 
> the QNX product it was V7 compliant but I do not remember a UUCP being 
> included in it.    Minux lacked a UUCP as I recall, but I'm hazy on 
> that has Andy's crew wrote a lot of the user space.   Coherent was a 
> "full" V7 clone and include things like the dev tools including 
> yacc/lex and was released much, much before the Taylor version came 
> out -- so what do they use for uucp if at all?
>
> Does anyone remember any other implementations?
>
> Clem
>

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-03-07 17:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-07 17:17 Clem Cole
2017-03-07 17:43 ` Jaap Akkerhuis
2017-03-07 21:14   ` SPC
2017-03-08  1:51     ` John Labovitz
2017-03-10  0:31   ` Steve Simon
2017-03-10  2:04     ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2017-03-10  2:09       ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2017-03-10  2:23         ` [TUHS] uucp protocol nits Lyndon Nerenberg
2017-03-10  2:57           ` Larry McVoy
2017-03-10  3:08             ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2017-03-10  3:28               ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2017-03-10  3:28                 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2017-03-10 14:28           ` Brad Spencer
2017-03-10 20:34           ` Ron Natalie
2017-03-10 21:42             ` Arthur Krewat
2017-03-10 22:10             ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2017-03-10 22:26               ` Corey Lindsly
2017-03-12 19:38             ` Dave Horsfall
2017-03-10  2:51     ` [TUHS] Help request: uucp, mail on 4.2BSD Dave Horsfall
2017-03-10  3:45       ` Dan Cross
2017-03-10  4:40         ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2017-03-10  9:57           ` Joerg Schilling
2017-03-10  6:34     ` Jaap Akkerhuis
2017-03-10  7:22       ` Erik E. Fair
2017-03-10  7:27         ` Lars Brinkhoff
2017-03-10 15:00         ` Dave Horsfall
2017-03-07 17:45 ` Arthur Krewat [this message]
2017-03-07 18:30 ` Jacob Goense
2017-03-07 18:30 ` Dan Cross
2017-03-07 19:00   ` Erik E. Fair
2017-03-07 22:04   ` Dave Horsfall
2017-03-10  6:10   ` Jim Carpenter
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2017-03-07  7:09 Warren Toomey
2017-03-07  7:11 ` Cory Smelosky
2017-03-07  7:54 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2017-03-07  8:27   ` Warren Toomey
2017-03-07  9:09 ` Warren Toomey
2017-03-07 15:23   ` Dave Horsfall
2017-03-07 20:43   ` Warren Toomey
2017-03-07 22:38     ` Dave Horsfall
2017-03-07 22:45       ` John Floren
2017-03-07 22:50       ` Jacob Goense
2017-03-07 22:58       ` Warren Toomey
2017-03-07 23:46         ` Cory Smelosky
2017-03-07 23:54           ` William Pechter
2017-03-07 23:55             ` Cory Smelosky
2017-03-08  0:03           ` John Floren
2017-03-08  0:05             ` Cory Smelosky
2017-03-08  4:05         ` Dave Horsfall
2017-03-08 10:21         ` arnold
2017-03-07 23:14       ` Arthur Krewat
2017-03-07 23:19         ` Dave Horsfall
2017-03-07 23:27           ` Arthur Krewat
2017-03-08 21:20             ` Josh Good
2017-03-08 21:42               ` Corey Lindsly
2017-03-08 22:59                 ` Arthur Krewat
2017-03-09 20:26                   ` Josh Good
     [not found]     ` <86varkclj1.fsf@molnjunk.nocrew.org>
2017-03-08  7:17       ` Warren Toomey
2017-03-08 22:03 ` Joerg Schilling
2017-03-08 23:07   ` Arthur Krewat
2017-03-08 23:18     ` Cory Smelosky
2017-03-08 23:39       ` Arthur Krewat
2017-03-09  0:22         ` Cory Smelosky
2017-03-09 14:51           ` Arthur Krewat
2017-03-09 17:53             ` SPC
2017-03-11  5:29             ` jsteve
2017-03-09  1:59     ` Dave Horsfall
2017-03-09  9:30     ` Joerg Schilling

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