From: krewat@kilonet.net (Arthur Krewat)
Subject: [TUHS] Help request: uucp, mail on 4.2BSD
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 12:45:47 -0500 [thread overview]
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I ran Taylor UUCP on a small BBS system (3 lines!) I ran from my
apartment in Deer Park, NY, circa 1991-1994 - USENET node kilowatt
It was on System V R4 by Consensys on a 486-33 and later a 486DX2-66 -
but some things were badly broken, so much so that things like UUCP
weren't even usable. I don't remember why. Might have had something to
do with the devices.
So Taylor it was. I have version 1.04 source code.
Hooked up to Motorola (mcdhup) in Hauppauge for USENET news and email,
using a Telebit Worldblazer, and then disseminated it to various other
small USENET nodes.
I had quite an interesting routing setup for the mail system included
with SVR4 (mailsurr?) that would take the UUCP maps posted in
comp.mail.maps, run them through pathalias and construct a complete path
to every node in the map. It was the only way I knew of to deal with
multiple systems I could connect to that would in turn also connect to
multiple other USENET nodes. I had no definitive "smart host".
On 3/7/2017 12:17 PM, Clem Cole wrote:
>
> On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 10:23 AM, Dave Horsfall <dave at horsfall.org
> <mailto:dave at horsfall.org>> wrote:
>
> It's been ages since I delved into UUCP; first was the
>
> "original", then HoneyDanBer.
>
>
> Actually this is a great question for this list .. how many
> implementations were created?
> 1.) The original 1978 version that shipped with V7 and 32/V (BSD 4.1
> and 4.2)
> 2,) PC-UUCP for DOS came next -- I never knew how much was ripped off
> from the original, because at the time, the Chesson's G protocol was
> not well specified. The authors claimed to have reverse engineered
> it - I will say it worked.
> 3.) Honey-Dan-Ber rewrite - most popular for a long time
> 4.) Taylor UUCP first real clone that I know of that I do think was
> done with out looking at other's source. G protocol had been publicly
> documented by then and the Trailblazer in fact was shipping with the
> protocol imbedded in it.
>
> Any others that folks know about and how well were they used? Did
> things like Coherent have a UUCP? Linux and FreeBSD were able to use
> to Taylor UUCP because it became available by then. Whitesmith's
> Idris lacked anything like UUCP IIRC (but was based on V6). Same
> with Thoth originally at Waterloo, but by the time they shipped it as
> the QNX product it was V7 compliant but I do not remember a UUCP being
> included in it. Minux lacked a UUCP as I recall, but I'm hazy on
> that has Andy's crew wrote a lot of the user space. Coherent was a
> "full" V7 clone and include things like the dev tools including
> yacc/lex and was released much, much before the Taylor version came
> out -- so what do they use for uucp if at all?
>
> Does anyone remember any other implementations?
>
> Clem
>
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Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-03-07 17:17 Clem Cole
2017-03-07 17:43 ` Jaap Akkerhuis
2017-03-07 21:14 ` SPC
2017-03-08 1:51 ` John Labovitz
2017-03-10 0:31 ` Steve Simon
2017-03-10 2:04 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2017-03-10 2:09 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2017-03-10 2:23 ` [TUHS] uucp protocol nits Lyndon Nerenberg
2017-03-10 2:57 ` Larry McVoy
2017-03-10 3:08 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2017-03-10 3:28 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2017-03-10 3:28 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2017-03-10 14:28 ` Brad Spencer
2017-03-10 20:34 ` Ron Natalie
2017-03-10 21:42 ` Arthur Krewat
2017-03-10 22:10 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2017-03-10 22:26 ` Corey Lindsly
2017-03-12 19:38 ` Dave Horsfall
2017-03-10 2:51 ` [TUHS] Help request: uucp, mail on 4.2BSD Dave Horsfall
2017-03-10 3:45 ` Dan Cross
2017-03-10 4:40 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2017-03-10 9:57 ` Joerg Schilling
2017-03-10 6:34 ` Jaap Akkerhuis
2017-03-10 7:22 ` Erik E. Fair
2017-03-10 7:27 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2017-03-10 15:00 ` Dave Horsfall
2017-03-07 17:45 ` Arthur Krewat [this message]
2017-03-07 18:30 ` Jacob Goense
2017-03-07 18:30 ` Dan Cross
2017-03-07 19:00 ` Erik E. Fair
2017-03-07 22:04 ` Dave Horsfall
2017-03-10 6:10 ` Jim Carpenter
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2017-03-07 7:09 Warren Toomey
2017-03-07 7:11 ` Cory Smelosky
2017-03-07 7:54 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2017-03-07 8:27 ` Warren Toomey
2017-03-07 9:09 ` Warren Toomey
2017-03-07 15:23 ` Dave Horsfall
2017-03-07 20:43 ` Warren Toomey
2017-03-07 22:38 ` Dave Horsfall
2017-03-07 22:45 ` John Floren
2017-03-07 22:50 ` Jacob Goense
2017-03-07 22:58 ` Warren Toomey
2017-03-07 23:46 ` Cory Smelosky
2017-03-07 23:54 ` William Pechter
2017-03-07 23:55 ` Cory Smelosky
2017-03-08 0:03 ` John Floren
2017-03-08 0:05 ` Cory Smelosky
2017-03-08 4:05 ` Dave Horsfall
2017-03-08 10:21 ` arnold
2017-03-07 23:14 ` Arthur Krewat
2017-03-07 23:19 ` Dave Horsfall
2017-03-07 23:27 ` Arthur Krewat
2017-03-08 21:20 ` Josh Good
2017-03-08 21:42 ` Corey Lindsly
2017-03-08 22:59 ` Arthur Krewat
2017-03-09 20:26 ` Josh Good
[not found] ` <86varkclj1.fsf@molnjunk.nocrew.org>
2017-03-08 7:17 ` Warren Toomey
2017-03-08 22:03 ` Joerg Schilling
2017-03-08 23:07 ` Arthur Krewat
2017-03-08 23:18 ` Cory Smelosky
2017-03-08 23:39 ` Arthur Krewat
2017-03-09 0:22 ` Cory Smelosky
2017-03-09 14:51 ` Arthur Krewat
2017-03-09 17:53 ` SPC
2017-03-11 5:29 ` jsteve
2017-03-09 1:59 ` Dave Horsfall
2017-03-09 9:30 ` Joerg Schilling
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