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Lu Bootable Root & Base System disks X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: TUHS main list Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" Dne 17. 7. 2020 v 19:26 Warner Losh napsal(a): > > > On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 9:13 AM Grant Taylor via TUHS > > wrote: > > On 7/17/20 12:04 AM, Petr Titěra wrote: > > No, I consider my effort to reconstruct Linux libc release history > > as off topic communication. > > Interesting.  Where can I learn more about your work efforts? > > > I'd like to know as well... >   I will post nearly same list I did send Grant off-list. This is what I have now (I can provide full listing): libc-5.4 - quite good coverage some versions only as a patch against previous version but I was able to find most original distribution source and binary archives libc-5.3 - most versions only as patch against older versions (this was short live series) libc-5.2 - not much of it was preserved on the net, again short lived series mostly patches but with wide gaps libc-5.1 - one of the shortest series (only 4 releases) again I have mostly patches libc-5.0 - first used ELF series. I have mostly diffs of it. with only one full release libc-4.8 - transitional release to ELF. there was only one version of it and I think it was never widely used in production. (you must be careful here as there is another libc4.8 series which is completely different) libc-4.7 - this was last official a.out series I've got most releases of it In addition to above I was even able to find CVS repository containing all changes from 4.6.27 to 5.4.46. Previous repository was unfortunately destroyed when computer of H.J.Lu crashed on April 6th 1994. Before version 4.7 thing get worse. These versions are oldest and they were not archived. Sometimes you can find bits of binaries of those versions in old Linux distributions but mostly on binary form. Another problem is that CDs started to be mass published only around 1993 and you will not find a lot of mirrors so old. libc-4.6 - I have only few full releases and just some bits like diffs of includes or release notes libc-4.5 - only some bits and patches. You can easily find CVS repository with commits of releases 4.5.7-4.5.19 (not development repository, just release by release pushed into CVS) as a side note same author created CVS repository of linux versions from LINUX_0_99_14 to LINUX_0_99_15I but these releases are quite easy to find libc-4.4 - again not much one full release and some bits libc-4.3 - one full release and some bits libc-4.2 - only some fixes from mailing lists libc-4.1 - it seem that I have source of it but nothing more Versions before 4.1 were released together with compiler libc-2.2 - only one release, nothing more libc-1.4 - I have some sources claiming to be package for gcc 1.4 from 1992 but I do not know its exact source (it contains copyright of DJ Delorie and I do not know if it was distributed with that copyright at that time). It seems to me that I found GCC binary for this library too but I was not able to test it. libc-0.12 - I do not know much about this version. I did not try to collect binutils for those libraries (I was mostly after sources) but as I tend to mirror whole tree I think I will get a lot of those too. Petr Titera > > > If someone think otherwise I would be wery glad. > > I'm decidedly not an authority on the matter.  But I think there are > some in the global Unix community that shun Linux, and things > (directly) > related to it because it's not a Unix descended from AT&T.  Hence my > comment in my original post. > > I would love to find a forum for Linux history like TUHS is for Unix > history. > > > I would too... The early days were fun to live through, but much of what > I recall from the time isn't mentioned much, if at all, anymore. > > Warner