From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 27178 invoked from network); 9 Aug 2022 15:15:59 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 9 Aug 2022 15:15:59 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 971DB40D5D; Wed, 10 Aug 2022 01:15:45 +1000 (AEST) Received: from gateway3.unifiedlayer.com (gateway3.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.24.191]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 21D6640D57 for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2022 01:15:41 +1000 (AEST) Received: from cm4.websitewelcome.com (unknown [108.167.139.16]) by gateway3.unifiedlayer.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79927200A5282 for ; Tue, 9 Aug 2022 10:15:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from dallas136.arvixeshared.com ([23.91.70.4]) by cmsmtp with ESMTP id LQxIoETTBV3YBLQxIoIZri; Tue, 09 Aug 2022 10:15:40 -0500 X-Authority-Reason: nr=8 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=humeweb.com ; s=default; h=References:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:Date:Subject:Mime-Version: Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=t3d1+jsZkc5rFXz4TTqwDtWy7blygfkYywgm3HL7fTM=; b=UiZTFqZAIXqoAHNPqx7pEBORuF XXwD1nUTnmvPIwg9nkx9O+ao+VvtfXtcprGhXgWRXoCVuknGD7V6CuVHpYuPgoyfAGlJVUd+zqU6R bH/x2FKhobZTq7AwdKZQ/6HJFb8Ebauu/g8qZNOB3G3i7XVfXIvYbr0vQs8LBewMIm3M=; Received: from 99-98-248-85.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net ([99.98.248.85]:57492 helo=smtpclient.apple) by dallas136.arvixeshared.com with esmtpsa (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.93) (envelope-from ) id 1oLQxI-002OcY-24; Tue, 09 Aug 2022 10:15:40 -0500 From: Andrew Hume Message-Id: <1815F4B8-D6B4-4C71-AC05-27D88C1E580D@humeweb.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_26FB3FD4-808B-4136-9426-B2997A8995AE" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3696.120.41.1.1\)) Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2022 08:15:38 -0700 In-Reply-To: To: Clem Cole References: <1oF87S-4zW-00@marmaro.de> <8NgHeeJiYEBE0zhtd9RdKIeYWcAwtxsnAj7YhVIvLpz-yt0__LeFvVzNNGgSNTeDGnVQy-qxkoHWvmRi84ybYyNAiMRDJuVoAaEG96UAu4s=@protonmail.com> <20220724190253.GA23421@tau1.ceti.pl> <20220728003014.GB6195@tau1.ceti.pl> <202207280103.26S13ZL5059300@ultimate.com> <1E44D7CE-CC4D-4F86-97CC-208E3972A785@msweng.com> <20220729050748.GB12246@tau1.ceti.pl> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3696.120.41.1.1) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - dallas136.arvixeshared.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - tuhs.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - humeweb.com X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 99.98.248.85 X-Source-L: No X-Exim-ID: 1oLQxI-002OcY-24 X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: 99-98-248-85.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net (smtpclient.apple) [99.98.248.85]:57492 X-Source-Auth: andrew@humeweb.com X-Email-Count: 1 X-Source-Cap: YWh1bWU7YWh1bWU7ZGFsbGFzMTM2LmFydml4ZXNoYXJlZC5jb20= X-Local-Domain: yes Message-ID-Hash: KEHAEEQUEWSQYN2NJ5CHF733V2IPAZ6Y X-Message-ID-Hash: KEHAEEQUEWSQYN2NJ5CHF733V2IPAZ6Y X-MailFrom: andrew@humeweb.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: SNOBOL and RATSNO List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --Apple-Mail=_26FB3FD4-808B-4136-9426-B2997A8995AE Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii rob, clem: has there been a shift in ability? or is this more likely a = sampling bias (because there were so many fewer programmers then)? > On Aug 9, 2022, at 6:34 AM, Clem Cole wrote: >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Tue, Aug 9, 2022 at 2:12 AM Rob Pike > wrote: >=20 > I still marvel at the productivity and precision of his generation of = programmers. > Amen. --Apple-Mail=_26FB3FD4-808B-4136-9426-B2997A8995AE Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii rob, = clem:

has there = been a shift in ability? or is this more likely a sampling = bias
(because there were so many fewer programmers = then)?


On Aug 9, 2022, at 6:34 AM, = Clem Cole <clemc@ccc.com> wrote:



On Tue, Aug 9, 2022 at 2:12 AM Rob Pike = <robpike@gmail.com> wrote:

I = still marvel at the productivity and precision of his generation of = programmers.
Amen.
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