From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 6156 invoked from network); 7 Nov 2022 23:12:56 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 7 Nov 2022 23:12:56 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7238C40EC2; Tue, 8 Nov 2022 09:12:50 +1000 (AEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tuhs.org; s=dkim; t=1667862770; h=from:from:reply-to:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-owner:list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=JIX8hEyuvOkC7OlpuHr+EkwhHczBw2+ugvYohiovOqw=; b=Z9ef+pCzdu3heVP2rk/ePwZiAi9iJ39SYJOg+LnAxaepal2bBktV1eWuFO8J7V79YwOBxA 9LfsFZkq6kfvtXD1MsHEGO39RYRvGH15ATnRL4PH/txVfyNHnEejpQxXpcRXRM7MjzFtPN CE0uA6xLd7iPXnvpeHJyLlmjKarONLo= Received: from mail-4325.protonmail.ch (mail-4325.protonmail.ch [185.70.43.25]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D32B640255 for ; Tue, 8 Nov 2022 09:12:45 +1000 (AEST) Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2022 23:12:40 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail3; t=1667862763; x=1668121963; bh=JIX8hEyuvOkC7OlpuHr+EkwhHczBw2+ugvYohiovOqw=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID: Message-ID:BIMI-Selector; b=f8BZscTPRBYzddBPJtyuC2QSn5P+FtEYX5EcljqhrtVhJ1Zvmy8QE4Ju616g7JRPD XVQQBVEm7J9xQ4rqvHVNcVjCkvEUTKi/Uey3bIG2w5y0sfWgFQ+Hr2VYSTdr+1t6hn TO2+lpCI/qmccoTs90HuJWNLm4kbpO8VUbPH6mdl5mrHjRArV9wCY77LeaebeVKhvS aL3Yi+2UeLovL0z4y0IiXZzYXuf92Rx2uG9AX7jUC6aTVSd3b83NXZ+fkPli8rGsh3 oamF+cSQlQuvfBp6MDDrGXL8sgf04CeHLwv5rfC4Y2BH4BOgAkYhqKbb/2T/YHFkZ6 WhTgrp/G3j6Zw== To: Grant Taylor Message-ID: <18Dhvwn9Aec6LXGA5dkWkgVdxkprEOxlu7by1jOzuRHRz4Dd6095utKlbod1TRPI8R25Z06CXqkQO3ID9o6p4Cef7NvjI90-nrJsdH7ngy0=@protonmail.com> In-Reply-To: <332950bf-f61c-0c76-63fa-caa33911ced3@spamtrap.tnetconsulting.net> References: <20221102060730.A114A18C08A@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> <74b464ac-2799-badd-9eae-a65acbe08bd7@spamtrap.tnetconsulting.net> <86F17F7B-4775-4B15-BC83-0E7FEC974786@cfcl.com> <332950bf-f61c-0c76-63fa-caa33911ced3@spamtrap.tnetconsulting.net> Feedback-ID: 35591162:user:proton MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID-Hash: R7XPJYJ5HPF2MDKBU7DPGBGNKZQHOI45 X-Message-ID-Hash: R7XPJYJ5HPF2MDKBU7DPGBGNKZQHOI45 X-MailFrom: segaloco@protonmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: tuhs@tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: early Unix papers, from Jim Joyce List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: From: segaloco via TUHS Reply-To: segaloco The following papers stick out to me as papers that haven't surfaced in any= of the research I've done (not exhaustive, but what stuck out to me): The Programmer's Workbench - A Machine for Software Development - Is this distinct from the Mashey papers? Why Pascal is Not My Favorite Programming Language - This sounds fun, not hard UNIX info, but fun A Typesetter-Independent TROFF - A ditroff-specific paper? Can't say I've seen such a thing, would be= interested in this one. I know someone (can't recall name/email) in the G= ROFF mailing list seemed particularly excited about ditroff information tha= t could be gleaned from the UNIX/TS 4.0 docs, this may be their golden carr= ot. PIC - A Graphics Language for Typesetting - The list mentions a March 1982 revision. This would post-date the UN= IX/TS 4.0 version, although there is the Research V10 version of the paper.= However, an initial flip through the V10 Volume 2 manual reveals no speci= fic last-modify date. That would ultimately trace back to https://minnie.t= uhs.org/cgi-bin/utree.pl?file=3DV8/usr/doc/pic . I can't find the roff sour= ces for V9 or V10 of this paper though, I've just got the physical book for= V10. The PIC Graphics Language - Another PIC paper? FSCK - The Unix File System Check Program - This paper shows up in UNIX/TS document sets but not research. I'd b= e curious of the specific date on this one, the latest one we have afaik is= 1981, UNIX/TS 4.0. Combining Data Bases: National and Cartographic Files - Not explicitly UNIX perhaps? Either way, I like maps, I'd be curious = what is going on here The UNIX System: Making Computers Easier To Use - Perhaps a transcript of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DXvDZLjaCJuw= ? C Reference Manual - Curious on the date, there are many revisions scanned UNIX Documentation Guide - BSD "Documentation Roadmap" perhaps? I have a 4BSD paper compilation= from some university in Australia, seems to just be a subset of C and Fort= ran related papers though, I wonder if there's correlation between this and= the intro paper in that set... The Unix Programming Environment - Kernighan and Mashey? Does this bear any relation to the book author= ed with Rob Pike? I feel like I've seen this title in passing but am defin= itely curious. A Walk Through AWK - Somewhere between the original AWK paper and the AWK book? PARTS - A System for Assigning Word Classes to English Text - Probably the paper underlying descriptions of parts in later WWB lite= rature. Writing Tools - The STYLE and DICTION Programs - Ditto, I'd be curious how much of what became trade-book WWB/DWB docu= mentation started as Bell memoranda and if a full manual could be compiled = from just memoranda. Route Finding in Street Maps by Computers and People - More maps work by Bell, didn't know they did stuff in this area I would absolutely be interested in throwing my hat in the ring on preserva= tion, can pay for shipping to and fro and scanning would be gratis. That s= aid, if someone expects a certain DPI, OCR, etc. then you can pay someone, = I volunteer my resources at the capacity I can volunteer them. If someone else can do the whole package, I'll also happily donate towards = that. - Matt G. ------- Original Message ------- On Monday, November 7th, 2022 at 2:16 PM, Grant Taylor via TUHS wrote: > On 11/6/22 4:56 PM, Rich Morin wrote: >=20 > > However, as a small step along the way, I opened up the box and > > produced a rough list of the contents (see below). When I noticed > > version or date information, I noted it, but many of the documents > > are missing that sort of thing. So, YMMV. >=20 >=20 > Thank you very much for the list. The provided details and your care to > separate things is appreciated. >=20 > > P.S. Careful Reader may notice a strong emphasis on text processing > > in this collection. Jim's research interests included the use of > > computers to analyze Middle English poetry. For example, the rhyme > > schemes allowed him to clarify the pronunciation of certain words. >=20 >=20 > I noticed that. >=20 > I also noticed that I would very much like to spend some (upcoming) cold > winter days with tea reading many of these papers. >=20 > I'd be happy to help contribute to get these papers somewhere to be > scanned & shared. Sadly I don't know how to go about doing the scanning > myself. >=20 > I'll contribute at least $10 toward getting these papers somewhere to be > scanned. >=20 > My efforts to scan front & back covers of my books doesn't scale to > scanning, much less OCRing, books. >=20 >=20 >=20 > -- > Grant. . . . > unix || die