From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN, FREEMAIL_FROM,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id b431c4c6 for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2019 17:16:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 21A91A204D; Sun, 6 Jan 2019 03:16:11 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C44B0A1C5C; Sun, 6 Jan 2019 03:15:57 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 3DD62A1C5C; Sun, 6 Jan 2019 03:15:56 +1000 (AEST) X-Greylist: delayed 501 seconds by postgrey-1.36 at minnie.tuhs.org; Sun, 06 Jan 2019 03:15:55 AEST Received: from smtp.zmail.com (smtp02.zmail.com [82.165.227.143]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A3915A1C50 for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2019 03:15:55 +1000 (AEST) Received: from india-live-spam03.icom.lan (india-live-spam03.icom.lan [10.72.59.43]) by smtp.zmail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 360061A0646 for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2019 17:07:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by india-live-spam03.icom.lan (Postfix) with ESMTP id 302F37E13CA for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2019 17:07:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.zmail.com ([10.72.59.196]) by localhost (india-live-spam03.icom.lan [10.72.59.40]) (amavisd-new, port 20025) with ESMTP id jersBw7eNtns for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2019 17:07:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from india-live-be04.icom.lan (india-live-be04.icom.lan [10.72.59.36]) by smtp.zmail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D01841A0646; Sat, 5 Jan 2019 17:07:32 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2019 17:07:32 +0000 (UTC) To: Larry McVoy , ron@ronnatalie.com Message-ID: <1948728932.119177.1546708052740.JavaMail.tomcat@india-live-be04> References: <201901050226.x052QigU089781@tahoe.cs.Dartmouth.EDU> <22BA2F17-310F-4396-A35A-23E2D1130018@ronnatalie.com>, <20190105153133.GA24497@mcvoy.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 In-Reply-To: <20190105153133.GA24497@mcvoy.com> X-Origin-Reference: 11086_SU5CT1g=_PDIwMTkwMTA1MTUzMTMzLkdBMjQ0OTdAbWN2b3kuY29tPg==_REPLY X-Origin: Larry McVoy X-Origin-Recipient: Ronald Natalie X-Origin-Received: 5 Jan 2019 15:40:13 +0000 (+00:00) X-Origin-Subject: Re: [TUHS] Isaacson v Unix X-Priority: 3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Donald ODona X-Mailer: zMail Mailer (beta) Subject: Re: [TUHS] Isaacson v Unix X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" At 5 Jan 2019 15:40:13 +0000 (+00:00) from Larry McVoy : > +1. RMS always talked big but the real work was done by other people. > GCC was Tiemann at Sun and then at Cygnus, groff was James Clark, > etc. I think RMS hacked on emacs but not much else. RMS hired a programmer for emacs already in the 80ths. He also became the maintainer then. It was the dude lucid hired for xemacs. After he skilled jwz at. al. they fired him. Tragical case.