From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: wkt@henry.cs.adfa.oz.au (Warren Toomey) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 12:23:26 +1100 (EST) Subject: Net/2: still at ftp.uu.net In-Reply-To: from "J. Joseph Max Katz" at "Nov 24, 98 05:17:48 pm" Message-ID: <199811250123.MAA06173@henry.cs.adfa.oz.au> In article by J. Joseph Max Katz: > They may have the sources rm'd that aren't supposed to be there. As far as I can tell (at a quick glance), the distribution is intact. I'm just comparing cksums between the Net/2 on the CSRG CD#2 and from the ftp site. I'm only doing sys/kern and sys/ufs. Absolutely no difference. diff on all file pairs gives no output. cksum gives the same checksums for each file pair (CD vs ftp). Hmm..... Warren Received: (from major at localhost) by minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA14564 for pups-liszt; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 13:24:57 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from owner-pups at minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au) X-Authentication-Warning: minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au: major set sender to owner-pups at minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au using -f Received: from henry.cs.adfa.oz.au (henry.cs.adfa.oz.au [131.236.21.158]) by minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA14559 for ; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 13:24:49 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from wkt at henry.cs.adfa.oz.au) Received: (from wkt at localhost) by henry.cs.adfa.oz.au (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA06820; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 13:20:41 +1100 (EST) From: Warren Toomey Message-Id: <199811250220.NAA06820 at henry.cs.adfa.oz.au> Subject: Re: Net/2: still at ftp.uu.net To: simul8 at simul8.demon.co.uk (James Lothian) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 13:20:41 +1100 (EST) Cc: pups at minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au (PDP Unix Preservation) In-Reply-To: <01BE1817.1E6F2EF0 at SONAR> from James Lothian at "Nov 25, 98 01:58:33 am" Reply-To: wkt at cs.adfa.oz.au X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pups at minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au Precedence: bulk In article by James Lothian: > In the UK, sunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk has a directory > /computing/systems/unix/4.3bsd-net2, which > seems to be all the unencumbered bits of net/2. > James It appears that several files from sys/kern and sys/ufs have been removed. All files still in these directories are intact. I haven't examined any other directories. They're in a safer legal position. Warren Received: (from major at localhost) by minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA15323 for pups-liszt; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 17:22:44 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from owner-pups at minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au) Received: from celeste.INS.CWRU.Edu (root at celeste.INS.CWRU.Edu [129.22.8.214]) by minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA15313 for ; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 17:22:28 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from mxs46 at k2.scl.cwru.edu) Received: from k2.cwru.edu (k2.SCL.CWRU.Edu [129.22.32.50]) by celeste.INS.CWRU.Edu with SMTP (8.8.8+cwru/CWRU-3.4) id BAA01425; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 01:22:24 -0500 (EST) (from mxs46 at k2.scl.cwru.edu for ) Received: from skybridge.scl.cwru.edu by k2.cwru.edu (8.6.12/SMI-SVR4) id BAA12480; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 01:26:06 -0500 Received: by skybridge.scl.cwru.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id BAA17893; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 01:35:15 -0500 Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 01:35:15 -0500 From: mxs46@k2.scl.cwru.edu (Michael Sokolov) Message-Id: <199811250635.BAA17893 at skybridge.scl.cwru.edu> To: pups at minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au Subject: Re: Net2 Status: likely outcome Sender: owner-pups at minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au Precedence: bulk Warren Toomey writes: > Therefore, once SCO reads through the legal documents (which they now > own), I'd be pretty sure that they will still treat Net/2 as > contaminated, and people will need a 32V license in some form in order to > legally acquire a copy of the Net/2 tape. Then until/unless Warren tells me otherwise, I'll keep Net/2 together with the real 4BSD distributions in Distributions/4bsd/net2, readable by the members of the pupsarc group only. Sincerely, Michael Sokolov Phone: 440-449-0299 (Home) 216-217-2579 (Cellular) ARPA Internet SMTP mail: mxs46 at k2.scl.cwru.edu Received: (from major at localhost) by minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA15311 for pups-liszt; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 17:22:17 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from owner-pups at minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au) Received: from celeste.INS.CWRU.Edu (root at celeste.INS.CWRU.Edu [129.22.8.214]) by minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA15306 for ; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 17:22:03 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from mxs46 at k2.scl.cwru.edu) Received: from k2.cwru.edu (k2.SCL.CWRU.Edu [129.22.32.50]) by celeste.INS.CWRU.Edu with SMTP (8.8.8+cwru/CWRU-3.4) id BAA01395; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 01:21:58 -0500 (EST) (from mxs46 at k2.scl.cwru.edu for ) Received: from skybridge.scl.cwru.edu by k2.cwru.edu (8.6.12/SMI-SVR4) id BAA12453; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 01:25:40 -0500 Received: by skybridge.scl.cwru.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id BAA17891; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 01:34:48 -0500 Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 01:34:48 -0500 From: mxs46@k2.scl.cwru.edu (Michael Sokolov) Message-Id: <199811250634.BAA17891 at skybridge.scl.cwru.edu> To: pups at minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au Subject: 4BSD distributions Sender: owner-pups at minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au Precedence: bulk Dear PUPS/TUHS members, All 4BSD distributions formerly in my home directory on minnie are now in the Distributions/4bsd directory. This directory is now owned by me, and from now on I will be maintaining PUPS's 4BSD collection. Sincerely, Michael Sokolov Phone: 440-449-0299 (Home) 216-217-2579 (Cellular) ARPA Internet SMTP mail: mxs46 at k2.scl.cwru.edu Received: (from major at localhost) by minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) id EAA17141 for pups-liszt; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 04:48:09 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from owner-pups at minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au) Received: from cornelius.INS.CWRU.Edu (root at cornelius.INS.CWRU.Edu [129.22.8.216]) by minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id EAA17136 for ; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 04:47:59 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from mxs46 at k2.scl.cwru.edu) Received: from k2.cwru.edu (k2.SCL.CWRU.Edu [129.22.32.50]) by cornelius.INS.CWRU.Edu with SMTP (8.8.8+cwru/CWRU-3.4) id MAA13368; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 12:47:53 -0500 (EST) (from mxs46 at k2.scl.cwru.edu for ) Received: from skybridge.scl.cwru.edu by k2.cwru.edu (8.6.12/SMI-SVR4) id MAA16953; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 12:51:34 -0500 Received: by skybridge.scl.cwru.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA18075; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 13:00:30 -0500 Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 13:00:30 -0500 From: mxs46@k2.scl.cwru.edu (Michael Sokolov) Message-Id: <199811251800.NAA18075 at skybridge.scl.cwru.edu> To: pups at minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au Subject: Re: What *was* the Tahoe? Sender: owner-pups at minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au Precedence: bulk Wortner, Frank (RSCH) writes to me: > P.S. You might want to forward this to the PUPS list, since I'm no longer > an active member (emal address changes, etc.) Doing so. Forwarded message: >From Frank_Wortner at ml.com Wed Nov 25 11:31 EST 1998 Return-Path: Received: from hudutilgw.ml.com by k2.cwru.edu (8.6.12/SMI-SVR4) id LAA16359; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 11:31:34 -0500 Received: from mail1.ml.com ([199.201.57.137]) by hudutilgw.ml.com (8.9.1/8.9.1/MLgwo-4.02) with ESMTP id LAA25304 for ; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 11:27:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from ewfd12.exchange.ml.com (ewfd12.exchange.ml.com [146.125.111.6]) by mail1.ml.com (8.9.1/8.9.1/MLml5-4.03b) with ESMTP id LAA00612 for ; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 11:27:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by EWFD12 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 11:27:13 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Wortner, Frank (RSCH)" To: "'mxs46 at k2.scl.cwru.edu'" Subject: Re: What *was* the Tahoe? Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 11:27:07 -0500 This one I know the answer to. "Tahoe" was the internal name for a computer called the "Compter Consoles Inc. 632." (At least that's what I recall." The machine itself was a light grey cube about the size of a VAX 750 CPU. The cube housed the CPU, the disk drives (Fujitsu "Super Eagles" I think) and an auto-loading tape drive. If I recall correctly, the manufacturer was located in Rochester, New York, USA. I used to sys admin one of these beasts -- a *long* time ago. They were pretty durable: mine not only survived an air condioner failure during which the temperature rose to more than 100 degrees Fahrenheit, it actually kept on working without a break for several hours! It was a good box, an attempt at a "VAX-killer," but it never really managed to grab a substantial base from DEC's boxes. Frank P.S. You might want to forward this to the PUPS list, since I'm no longer an active member (emal address changes, etc.)